After winning the title in 2003

[HRE Otto IV]

We were the best Northeastern program and in the Elite 8 of programs. You could have made a legit argument that we were the best non blue blood program.

23 years later we are the 3rd best Northeastern program and while we are still in the Sweet 16 of programs, with several programs knocking on our door it wouldn't take much to knock us out.

GMac better turn this thing around.

 

[upperdeck]

Where did Kentucky fall then vs now?

 

[oldpinepoint]

I have a hard time putting us in sweet 16 of programs

 

[CuseGrad94]

I have a hard time putting us in sweet 16 of programs

I think it’s close probably in that 15-20 range. So tainted by the last 5 years but still top 16 in Sweet 16’s and FF, but definitely dropping quickly

 

[PoppyHart]

Everybody has a different definition of "program"

 

[Briancuse]

There was a time where uconn was one of our peer programs. Now people think nc state is a better job. Gmac you need to pull us out of this mess.

 

[Sherman20]

We were the best Northeastern program and in the Elite 8 of programs. You could have made a legit argument that we were the best non blue blood program.

23 years later we are the 3rd best Northeastern program and while we are still in the Sweet 16 of programs, with several programs knocking on our door it wouldn't take much to knock us out.

GMac better turn this thing around.

So true. Thank god for the unexpected 2016 Final Four and the 2018 and 2021 Sweet 16s (along with the the 2019 tourney bid). Those helped goose our overall numbers. It’s really freakin unfortunate that we didn’t win the national title in 2010 (AO’s injury, ugh) and didn’t make the 2012 Final Four. That would’ve really helped our overall program resume and maybe this 10-year swoon wouldn’t have felt as bad. I think we’re all desperate for Gmac and Co to get things back on track—and quickly.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

I have a hard time putting us in sweet 16 of programs

Historically? How can you have us any worse than 14th?

By Titles alone we have to put UCLA, Kentucky, UNC, UConn, Duke, Indiana, Kansas, Florida, Nova, Louisville ahead of SU.

By Titles and Final Fours we have to put Michigan State and Michigan ahead of SU.

Who else can we put ahead of SU? Zona? Maybe. We still have a higher overall win % and another Final Four on them.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

There was a time where uconn was one of our peer programs. Now people think nc state is a better job. Gmac you need to pull us out of this mess.

Really pre 2009 I would say that SU was ahead of UConn all time.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Everybody has a different definition of "program"

I am talking historically and there really isn't much variance in that regard.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Where did Kentucky fall then vs now?

They have had one title and four Final Fours since then. Who is moving past them all time when they have 8 titles in 5 different decades?