Albany Plan

[Scooch]

This game is utterly meaningless and will tell us nothing.

 

[All4SU]

Also, that’s literally what Dino said he was going to do when he said “we will see both”. My suggestion, is instead of playing a series here and a series there, just give him the whole damn game. We’ve seen how it killed momentum against Rutgers, why the hell would we continue to play patty cake. Just give him a game and make a decision.

He said he would play both. He did not say he would play Shrader “for a whole game.”

 

[All4SU]

This game is utterly meaningless and will tell us nothing.

Disagree from the standpoint that it can give certain players/groups a chance to demonstrate focus and consistency. I sincerely hope the game isn’t close enough to demonstrate we can pull out a win. But if I were coaching I would approach it as though there was some urgency to performance.
It’s true that players who have experienced a lot of pressure from losing may need to relax and have fun. But IMO the time for fun is over. Approach this game like it’s the most important game of the year for the team. Yes, play a lot of kids on the roster if you can. But make it clear to anyone on the 2-deep that their positions are on the line.

 

[Scooch]

Disagree from the standpoint that it can give certain players/groups a chance to demonstrate focus and consistency. I sincerely hope the game isn’t close enough to demonstrate we can pull out a win. But if I were coaching I would approach it as though there was some urgency to performance.
It’s true that players who have experienced a lot of pressure from losing may need to relax and have fun. But IMO the time for fun is over. Approach this game like it’s the most important game of the year for the team. Yes, play a lot of kids on the roster if you can. But make it clear to anyone on the 2-deep that their positions are on the line.

We'll see. My hunch is that we'll treat this as a glorified scrimmage, run the ball a ton, "not put things on tape", and all that jazz. There's nothing in 6 years of Dino's tenure that makes me think this game will do much of anything for the program, other than lock up our annual FCS win.

 

[Nahson]

He said he would play both. He did not say he would play Shrader “for a whole game.”

I acknowledged that. I’m just saying in my opinion it would be better just to give Shrader the game and then make a concrete decision for the rest of the season.

 

[gmoney44]

About 5 games in to the 2019 season I said Tommy isn’t our guy and I was crucified for it. What he lacks you can’t teach. You either have it or you don’t. Here we are two crappy seasons later and we’re in the same position. I was hoping he would transfer after last season because I knew Dino would play him. Cut the cord and move on from Tommy for the love of god.

 

[JeremyCuse]

We'll see. My hunch is that we'll treat this as a glorified scrimmage, run the ball a ton, "not put things on tape", and all that jazz. There's nothing in 6 years of Dino's tenure that makes me think this game will do much of anything for the program, other than lock up our annual FCS win.

He hasn't made many adjsutments the last two years so I hold little hope that Sat will be any different. Perhaps with the criticism pouring in and his job clearly in jeopardy he may go with some of the young Wr's and open things up a little bit but that's most likely wishful thinking.

 

[P Vasiloff]

Tisdale might not be the biggest problem. I finally watched again. Vettorello really struggles when the DL stunts. He just doesn't react quick enough.

Tisdale did get away with a pretty blatant hold on the Tucker TD run. Head ref had a good view of it from the replay they showed on the broadcast. I think he gave us one back on that play. He wasn't the one who called the unsportsmanlike, it was a side judge I believe.

From limited sideline shots, the body language of the QB not playing didn't look great. Just hope Dino knows what he's doing, and hate that I don't think he does.

Watched the quarterback not playing on Saturday and you are very correct regarding body language. My seats are six rows back of the Syracuse bench. QB not playing spent entire game by himself and never once clapped or cheered his teammates on. Only contact he had with a teammate was during a time out he and Markiewicz or McPhail would play catch and then once play resumed back to being by himself.

 

[baggerbob]

About 5 games in to the 2019 season I said Tommy isn’t our guy and I was crucified for it. What he lacks you can’t teach. You either have it or you don’t. Here we are two crappy seasons later and we’re in the same position. I was hoping he would transfer after last season because I knew Dino would play him. Cut the cord and move on from Tommy for the love of god.

Dino is determined to go down with the ship as all good captains do.

 

[qdawgg]

Dino is determined to go down with the ship as all good captains do.

Except this ship is currently sinking but it still pays $3mill + and a chance to go coach somewhere else.

 

[gmoney44]

Dino is determined to go down with the ship as all good captains do.

As all dumb captains do when there are enough life rafts for everyone.

 

[Orangello]

Trainers slip Albany mickeys in their Gatorade. TD goes 35 of 35 for 500 yards and promptly gets drafted by the Ottawa Red Blacks. The lure of ice skating on the Rideau Canal is too much and he departs solving our QB conundrum. When asked for his reaction. Coach DB says: "I don't scratch my head unless it itches and I don't dance unless I hear some music. I will not be intimidated. That's just the way it is."

 

[WarmWeather]

Shrader needs a full game. The people who’ve posted negative remarks about Garrett, based on his limited time against Rutgers are absolutely ridiculous. Dungey and Shrader are very similar, in that they are athletic QBs that improvise. Shrader pushing that fumble out of bounds reminded me of a young Dungey decision making. Dungey, like Shrader, wouldn’t have made much with a similar opportunity because both QBs are going to make mistakes and need more than a limited sample size to access. I’m 100% sure that if Dungey was in the same situation as Shrader (transfer and all) he would look exactly the same as Shrader does right now.

I think we forget sometimes, some of the dumb things Eric did when he was here, throughout the years… at one point we wanted to bench him for Tommy. But Eric wasn’t great in short spurts, Eric was great because he found ways to compete and put the team on his back. Shrader needs a whole game, Albany would be a perfect opportunity to get him comfortable.

I remember a quote from Eric once that went something a long the lines of “7 on 7 doesn’t equate to live games” and he’s exactly right. That’s why we are where we are. This isn’t 7 on 7, this is real football and as much as we love our guys, we don’t have the same talent level as our peers in a lot of areas… that’s why we need a guy who can create plays and improvise.

If I’m wrong, fine. But it can’t get worse than this and I rather lose with a 6’4 230 QB kicking safety’s in the head.

Love this. If anyone needs a larger sample size on Schrader check out how he did against LSU (National Champs in 2019) and Auburn (#13 in 2019), as a 19-year-old freshman. And if he doesn't work out, I too would rather lose with a 6"4" 230 lb QB escaping containment, evading linebackers, and occasionally kicking a safety in the head.

 

[OburgOrange]

Love this. If anyone needs a larger sample size on Schrader check out how he did against LSU (National Champs in 2019) and Auburn (#13 in 2019), as a 19-year-old freshman. And if he doesn't work out, I too would rather lose with a 6"4" 230 lb QB escaping containment, evading linebackers, and occasionally kicking a safety in the head.

I see what you did there

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

Not sure if I've thought about this since 7th Grade.

Albany Plan - Wikipedia

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Albany Congress - Wikipedia

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[David321]

I almost wonder if he should just let Schrader play the whole game.

 

[JRHEETER]

Love this. If anyone needs a larger sample size on Schrader check out how he did against LSU (National Champs in 2019) and Auburn (#13 in 2019), as a 19-year-old freshman. And if he doesn't work out, I too would rather lose with a 6"4" 230 lb QB escaping containment, evading linebackers, and occasionally kicking a safety in the head.

Agree with all of this.

Shrader needs the whole game against Albany.

What’s it going to hurt, honestly?

And if Tommy has an issue with it and gets butt hurt…than he’s too fragile anyway.

If Shrader goes out and balls out we know who our new starter is. If he doesn’t, than we know the best we have is Tommy

But Saturday is the opportunity to play him and it needs to be done. If not Dino is far too stubborn of a coach to ever change he will never have success period at the P5 level

 

[David321]

Obviously we’re going to run the ball a lot but if they don’t (or can’t) stretch the field I think it will be a missed opportunity. Don’t want to give the ACC tape? Fine, keep it vanilla and just still do some deep balls.