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Almost every year at this point in the season we see a rule change thread...

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One thing I have been thinking about all season is how foul shots determine games late.

imo, They should make a rule something like with 2 minutes left in the game you get a choice of the ball or to shoot on the first foul, but have to shoot on the second. On away from the ball fouls like shirt grabs and holds, you get a choice to shoot or inbound always with 3-5 seconds being taken off the clock.

Our team in particular, buried their freethrows very nicely yesterday for the win. I just hate to see a team win all game, get up by 8 with 1:30 left, and lose because they miss the front end of two one and ones on the road, and only make one out of two the next trip.

Reguardless the oposition can always put some 10th guy off the bench just to foul intentionally, but if you have a choice ball or shoot then you would get two opportunities and a away from the ball foul safety net.

When you are up by 8 all game you don't deserve to lose/almost lose in dead action. You should be able to finish the game in live action you earned the privilege to.
 
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1. 30 second shot clock(I would be fine with 24)
2. 4 ten minute periods
3. Let kids have numbers 6-9 in their jerseys
4. Teams can decline FTs on fouls until the last 2 minutes. That way you can say I would rather have possession than Arinze Onuaku shoot 2 FTs but last two minutes no declines.
5. 3 timeouts per team each game.
6. FIBA 3 pt line
7. Enforce the coaching box I want Jamie Dixon to get T'd up when he does that on the court crap.
8. Stop the clutch and grab call fouls.
9. On non shooting fouls the shot clock only recycles to 25 or if above if that is where the foul is committed.
10. Let teams advance the ball in the last 2 minutes by TO. Buzzer beaters are awesome.
 
One thing I have been thinking about all season is how foul shots determine games late.

imo, They should make a rule something like with 2 minutes left in the game you get a choice of the ball or to shoot on the first foul, but have to shoot on the second. On away from the ball fouls like shirt grabs and holds, you get a choice to shoot or inbound always with 3-5 seconds being taken off the clock.

Our team in particular, buried their freethrows very nicely yesterday for the win. I just hate to see a team win all game, get up by 8 with 1:30 left, and lose because they miss the front end of two one and ones on the road, and only make one out of two the next trip.

Reguardless the oposition can always put some 10th guy off the bench just to foul intentionally, but if you have a choice ball or shoot then you would get two opportunities and a away from the ball foul safety net.

When you are up by 8 all game you don't deserve to lose/almost lose in dead action. You should be able to finish the game in live action you earned the privilege to.
On the 14th foul in the half, 1 point plus 2 shots.
 
four ten minute periods would be interesting. I wonder how much it would change the game.
 
Others.
30 second clock

No restart of 10 second count in backcourt. Add a 10 second horn.
No 5 count on in bounds, but 10 second count starts when offensive player has ball out of bounds.

International rules on:
Lane
3 point line
Inbounds off turn over
Goal tending

No staggerred substitutions, no huddling and no hand slapping on FTs.

A player who is out of bounds is out of play, so you can't throw it off of him for a turnover.

Call traveling on stationary in bounds

Bigger charge circle.

Better instruction on block charge. Offensive advantage if the guy is trying to take a charge. If going up for a block, honor verticality rule.

No Hand checks. At all.
 
Interesting.

If a team chose to take the ball out, would they get a fresh shot clock?

I wouldn't mind having a 5 point lead knowing that if I got fouled I could keep the ball and run another 35 seconds off the clock.

It would suck if I was behind by 5 points.
 
Unless there is a shot clock malfunction, no taking time to review the shot clock unless there is only 20-30 seconds left in the game. Short of that, do not allow teams with no TOs left, to huddle up during a clock review.
 
One thing I have been thinking about all season is how foul shots determine games late.

imo, They should make a rule something like with 2 minutes left in the game you get a choice of the ball or to shoot on the first foul, but have to shoot on the second. On away from the ball fouls like shirt grabs and holds, you get a choice to shoot or inbound always with 3-5 seconds being taken off the clock.

Our team in particular, buried their freethrows very nicely yesterday for the win. I just hate to see a team win all game, get up by 8 with 1:30 left, and lose because they miss the front end of two one and ones on the road, and only make one out of two the next trip.

Reguardless the oposition can always put some 10th guy off the bench just to foul intentionally, but if you have a choice ball or shoot then you would get two opportunities and a away from the ball foul safety net.

When you are up by 8 all game you don't deserve to lose/almost lose in dead action. You should be able to finish the game in live action you earned the privilege to.


Free throws are fine, players should learn to shoot free throws they are an important part of the game.

I don't like the bench being able to call timeout during a scrum for the ball or when a player is in trouble on a time violation e.g. 10 second backcourt or 5 second inbounds.

I don't think they should ever adjust the clock to put fractional seconds back on the game or shot clock. Under two minutes, if a full second or more was lost make the adjustment. First 38 minutes has to be a full 35 second error to make an adjustment (okay maybe 2 seconds).

Call all fouls no matter how many a team commits. Don't stop calling them just because one or both teams can't seem to play defense without fouling. A foul is a foul. I guess that isn't really a rule change.

Review a questionable three point shot at the next stoppage. have the referee at the table review it first and determine whether it even needs to be looked at.

Either enforce the coaches box or eliminate the rule.

Take away at least one timeout per team. They have too many. I'm old school play the game stop interrupting the flow trying to micromanage the action. You get plenty of stoppages with all of the commercials etc.

Eliminate the media timeout that occurs after a foul has been committed but before the free throws are taken. Free throws should be taken immediately not after the player has been iced on the bench.
 
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1. 30 second shot clock(I would be fine with 24)
2. 4 ten minute periods
3. Let kids have numbers 6-9 in their jerseys
4. Teams can decline FTs on fouls until the last 2 minutes. That way you can say I would rather have possession than Arinze Onuaku shoot 2 FTs but last two minutes no declines.
5. 3 timeouts per team each game.
6. FIBA 3 pt line
7. Enforce the coaching box I want Jamie Dixon to get T'd up when he does that on the court crap.
8. Stop the clutch and grab call fouls.
9. On non shooting fouls the shot clock only recycles to 25 or if above if that is where the foul is committed.
10. Let teams advance the ball in the last 2 minutes by TO. Buzzer beaters are awesome.
what is the advantage of 4 10 minute periods over 1 20 minute period other than another stop in play?
 
Airball a three pointer? Chug a beer.

Miss a dunk? Chug a beer.

A tie-up results in both players chugging three beers each. Whoever finishes first gets to inbound the ball.


After a tie-up or after a guy who is falling out of bounds throws the ball off of another player both players have to shake hands and hug each other. If there is a blow to the head of any sort they have to kiss.
 
One rule that really needs to change and the Captain hit on it, you get 10 seconds to bring the ball over half court. That's it. You use 8 and call time out, you have two left. Also, no more throwing it in to the back court once you get the ball over the back court. So we eliminate the in bounds heave in to the back court.
 
After a tie-up or after a guy who is falling out of bounds throws the ball off of another player both players have to shake hands and hug each other. If there is a blow to the head of any sort they have to kiss.
Isn't that the rule now??
 
I honestly thing that if games were officiated the way the rules are written now no (or very few) rule changes would be necessary. I would be in favor of a shorter shot clock.

A few of my pet peeves, these rules should be enforced:

-Illegal screens are never called except late in games when suddenly the rule (or some version of the rule) is enforced. Teams constantly set illegal screens on the top of our zone and it is called 3-4 times a season if we are lucky.

-Call off the ball fouls. Since when is it acceptable to grab, knee and shove players who are running to get open without the ball. Watch Cooney for a few possessions he gets hit more times on one possession without the ball than Rob Johnson did behind the Buffalo Bills offensive line in a season.

-Call three second violations.

-Call fouls on the bodying up defense. Using hands, hips and knees to play defense is not defense. The great coaches always say that you play most of the defense with your feet.

-Call blocks when players play no defense and just stand in the way. In no other sport are you rewarding for standing still and getting fun over on defense. Charges should be called when players lower their shoulder or push with their hands to get separation, not when a defender stands and allows the offensive player to dribble three times before running them over.

Another one of my pet peeves is the shaking/slapping of hands after every foul shout make or miss. That's not a rule but does tick me off for some reason.
 
Interesting.

If a team chose to take the ball out, would they get a fresh shot clock?

I wouldn't mind having a 5 point lead knowing that if I got fouled I could keep the ball and run another 35 seconds off the clock.

It would suck if I was behind by 5 points.
In my rule if you declined the FTs you would inbound the ball with whatever time was on the shot clock left or it would recycle to 15 if below. Also in the last 2 minutes you couldn't decline FTs to force some game to be played.
 
what is the advantage of 4 10 minute periods over 1 20 minute period other than another stop in play?
Instead of timeouts under 16,12,8,4 you would get one timeout under 5 and the end of the quarter. It would reduce two stoppages each game and would create end of the quarter drama for kids like their is in the NBA.
NCAA basketball is the only game nowadays that does halfs. FIBA and the NBA do 4 periods. If you don't like it sorry but it should be debated.
 
Airball a three pointer? Chug a beer.

Miss a dunk? Chug a beer.

A tie-up results in both players chugging three beers each. Whoever finishes first gets to inbound the ball.

Can I play? :D
 
Instead of timeouts under 16,12,8,4 you would get one timeout under 5 and the end of the quarter. It would reduce two stoppages each game and would create end of the quarter drama for kids like their is in the NBA.
NCAA basketball is the only game nowadays that does halfs. FIBA and the NBA do 4 periods. If you don't like it sorry but it should be debated.
Problem: Fewer stoppages = fewer media ads = less $$$.

It all comes down to the Benjamins.
 
Instead of timeouts under 16,12,8,4 you would get one timeout under 5 and the end of the quarter. It would reduce two stoppages each game and would create end of the quarter drama for kids like their is in the NBA.
NCAA basketball is the only game nowadays that does halfs. FIBA and the NBA do 4 periods. If you don't like it sorry but it should be debated.
TV says no.
 
Instead of timeouts under 16,12,8,4 you would get one timeout under 5 and the end of the quarter. It would reduce two stoppages each game and would create end of the quarter drama for kids like their is in the NBA.
NCAA basketball is the only game nowadays that does halfs. FIBA and the NBA do 4 periods. If you don't like it sorry but it should be debated.

I like the idea. However, the NCAA does like to keep its product differentiated from the pros. For this reason I think there has not been a shot clock change (yet). Also, as has been pointed out, more stoppages equates to more money.
 
-Call fouls on the bodying up defense. Using hands, hips and knees to play defense is not defense. The great coaches always say that you play most of the defense with your feet.
If you can't body up on defense, then you can't body up on offense either. I hate that players, especially centers and PF get to back their way to the basket as long as the defensive player moves one iota. Use of arms, chest, hips or butts to clear space should be a foul.
 
TV says no.
Who controls the rules? The NCAA does. How much does the NCAA get from ESPN each year? About 50 million dollars for the NIT, baseball WS, softball WS, lacrosse and other filler. Turner pays the NCAA the 850 million per year for the tournament.
During the regular season the NCAA makes nothing from TV how the hell are they going to complain when the NCAA does get its.
The NCAA could change to 4 ten minute periods next year and the TV broadcasters would have to adjust maybe make each break an extra 30 seconds to fit one more spot. This isn't the NFL or MLB where TV broadcasters can actually control things. Since conferences cut deals with networks the NCAA can go pound sand.
 

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