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Message: [QUOTE="tipphill, post: 1596967, member: 4809"] just got back from the game--very simply---they were not ready to play, had no energy, lazy, poor defense---yes st.johns was red hot, hop did not have clue on his substitutions. waited way to long to press to wake up his own team. totally not impressed with hop at all. VERY disappointed. team had no confidence. i give particulars ---but to sad to comment. i have not read any thing else on this board bottom line is they stunk and so did hopkins. frank howard needs more minutes, lydon did not take a shot in the second half until approx 9 minute mark [/QUOTE]