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Message: [QUOTE="NYCCuse826, post: 4827277, member: 8866"] It's like a parent trying to tell a coach how to coach or what plays to run. That's not your place to do that. It's the same here. How are you going to help especially if you're not in position to do anything? Has anyone mentioned that people reaching out might be low character and he made a decision that he can't have them around the program? If you have trashed the program, why would you be surprised that you're being kept at arms length? This practice has predated Babers. [/QUOTE]