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Message: [QUOTE="SUFan44, post: 4883353, member: 39"] Plenty of alums at other schools go to practice and visit school. Give talks to them. Are connected. Come to big games. Plenty of them. Don't you think there's a reason you don't remember seeing or hearing any former players coming back for any of those things? It's OK to say that Babers screwed up. He may be a good man but he had faults. If even one alum felt they weren't welcome under his leadership, that's a problem. The guys who had quotes in the article - Damien Rhodes, Bruce Williams, Robert Drummond, Qadry Ismail -- span a wide range of years. That's a good indication that it's true. Always defending the SU side of things. Boeheim, this, and all other instances. It's pretty interesting. [/QUOTE]