and no offense intended to anyone here, because I do honestly like his writing and he's a damn fine beat reporter, but when was the last time Waters had a scoop on anything??
well sure, but anyone observing this whole thing could have written thatHis tweet wasn't a scoop. It sure sounded like a posting of fact.
Okay, that's my point, It's not semantics to say AW is not signed/ enrolled. It's a fact. And until that time, he is not, in fact, ours. "He will wear Orange" could be a future fact but it's not a current fact that he does.well sure, but anyone observing this whole thing could have written that
Okay, that's my point, It's not semantics to say AW is not signed/ enrolled. It's a fact. And until that time, he is not, in fact, ours. "He will wear Orange" could be a future fact but it's not a current fact that he does.
Exactly.What we have here, is a failure, to communicate... This is purely an argument about semantics. Of course nothing is done until it's done. These are young men who can and do change their minds at random times for random reasons. But when Moyer announced he was coming and spent months tweeting pro-cuse stuff before signing a LOI I don't think most would mind the phrase "done deal" being used for his recruitment. We know AW3 isn't DONE... what we don't know is if he is done.
Agreed, I took that as more a statement of confidence from the coaching staff. But, as we all know, things could change quickly.Okay, that's my point, It's not semantics to say AW is not signed/ enrolled. It's a fact. And until that time, he is not, in fact, ours. "He will wear Orange" could be a future fact but it's not a current fact that he does.
Not saying I disagree, but I believe it was bees who said they could have hidden that fact. Just saying, there''s a million scenarios here...
Respect the heck out of ya, iommi (and your namesake of course!) but you are indeed nitpicking semantics. I'm pretty sure I know why are doing it, but I won't go there. Some people are acting butt-hurt (not you) because their "sources" haven't come through like a few different ones on here have.Okay, that's my point, It's not semantics to say AW is not signed/ enrolled. It's a fact. And until that time, he is not, in fact, ours. "He will wear Orange" could be a future fact but it's not a current fact that he does.
...could have hidden what fact: That he's signed/ enrolled?
He can be enrolled and not listed in the directory yet. There's been players who didn't get into the system for a couple days. Happens often in the football side.
Well, thanks, Pearl, the respect is mutual. I'm genuinely not trying to nitpick. I just don't think he's signed yet. That's all. It's not nitpicking or my intention to do so, it's very clear cut to me.Respect the heck out of ya, iommi (and your namesake of course!) but you are indeed nitpicking semantics. I'm pretty sure I know why are doing it, but I won't go there. Some people are acting butt-hurt (not you) because their "sources" haven't come through like a few different ones on here have.
What we have here, is a failure, to communicate... This is purely an argument about semantics. Of course nothing is done until it's done. These are young men who can and do change their minds at random times for random reasons. But when Moyer announced he was coming and spent months tweeting pro-cuse stuff before signing a LOI I don't think most would mind the phrase "done deal" being used for his recruitment. We know AW3 isn't DONE... what we don't know is if he is done.
Yes
The only other explanation would be that he is going overseas...
I hope what bees said is the case here but if so, why no announcement? A guy with pro aspirations transfers and doesn't want people to know? That'd be a first.
exactly - plus look at what it is doing to you guys now - this anticipation has surpassed TT's recruitment...I don't disagree, just pointing out that it is possible to be enrolled without the public knowing.
exactly - plus look at what it is doing to you guys now - this anticipation has surpassed TT's recruitment...
I continue to double down after my lunch time talk with my "source"
For what it's worth Boeheim said team is reporting in on Friday.Sept 6 I believe
The idea wasn't to equate the two. Only to show the most obvious example of a guy not being officially locked into anything but the term "done deal" still being applicable. Say for example, and NOT saying this happened, someone's fiance was in the room and hears AW3 tell Red "Yup I'll be orange, I'm just going to lay low and announce it the 26th of August so I can enjoy my summer." Now I would have no problem with that person categorizing AW3 as a "done deal" while still acknowledging a small margin of error for mind changes or bizarre dishonesty. Hence my last statement, we know AW3 is not DONE, as in official and locked in... what we don't know is if these insiders know something is done as in known to be true with a reasonable level of certainty while not yet public.i think the big difference is AW hasnt committed.
And even if did commit in secrecy, there is a HUGE mental difference b/w announcing to world and telling a coach.
Look, Im not disputing he is coming/not coming... I have no idea. But you can't compare Moyer to White in this situation.
or, I could have just disappeared - its not like I have ANYTHING to gain by him coming here...I'm not surprised you are doubling down at this point. I play a lot of poker. At this point, you are very much pot committed. You have to go all in.