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Message: [QUOTE="Alsacs, post: 2068257, member: 652"] So MVPs 5-2(it should be 3 this year but Ryan was given the award because Goodell fraudulently suspended Brady 4 times) is pretty significant. Brady has finished 2nd in MVP voting the last 2 years as a 38 year old and 39'year old. Super Bowl titles Brady 5 Manning 2 Super Bowl MVPs Brady 4 Manning 1 Alltime wins Brady 208 Manning 200 Manning has more TDs and passing yards. Brady will catch him. Look at Manning's season as a 39 year old QB 10 games 9 TD passes and an NFL leading 17 INT. Brady's season as a 39 year old. 12 games 28 TDs 2 INT. I personally don't think Peyton used HGH after his neck surgeries. That story was buried because Peyton is loved though. Once Brady passes Peyton's stats I don't think he can seen as better as Brady. Rodgers has better physical skills no doubt and he could be the best down the road. [/QUOTE]