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Message: [QUOTE="grepal, post: 44824, member: 1121"] I can not imagine his career is over due to T.J. surgery. The surgery is so common now and so advanced in technique tha after a year or so most pitchers actually throw a little harder. It just takes time. [I]I do think that the injury just shows that no matter how much a team tries to protect a pitcher stree injuries occur. While the Joba rules got the most inkl other teams limit their pitchers and have no more or less success than other teams in preventing injuries. It may simply be genetic makeup and torque on the arm. Look how long a legendarily overused pitcher like Dice K pitched in Japan and the US before he needed surgery. By the same token how did guys like Cy Young amass the inning totals he threw over a career and avoid serious arm injuries. I think it boils down to luck.[/I] [/QUOTE]