anyone got the analysis of this years WR production versus

[IthacaBarrel]

last? Just curious, lot of handwringing and panties in a wad if Dino's system was plug and play and how we could never replace last years WR spots. I certainly liked the guys last year as much as any but would be interesting to see.

Maybe we can put that to rest as well

 

[Trueblue25]

It’s impressive how Riley and Johnson have each upped their production. Custis needs to remain consistent at a high level. Harris has been a revalation.

Still eating crow about Riley.

 

[upperdeck]

last year 3500/320 with two guys catching 89 and 105 two around 30 two more around 15

this year on pace for 3300/266 with two guys catching around 60 two around 35 and four around 20

so a few less yds, a decent chunk fewer catches, but better yds per catch

and we may actually pass for more if we do anything these last 3 games.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

last year 3500/320 with two guys catching 89 and 105 two around 30 two more around 15

this year on pace for 3300/266 with two guys catching around 60 two around 35 and four around 20

so a few less yds, a decent chunk fewer catches, but better yds per catch

and we may actually pass for more if we do anything these last 3 games.

OK, and assuming the running production is up a bit too.

 

[jr4750]

last year 3500/320 with two guys catching 89 and 105 two around 30 two more around 15

this year on pace for 3300/266 with two guys catching around 60 two around 35 and four around 20

so a few less yds, a decent chunk fewer catches, but better yds per catch

and we may actually pass for more if we do anything these last 3 games.

Nice analysis. I think the WR stats are also impacted by our rushing numbers

2017 - 1938 total yards

2018 - 1835 yards through 9 games.

Rushing yards have increased over 40 yds per game. 11 more TD's as well thus far.

 

[Chip]

My simple minded guess would be more options, which is good. Less of a safety valve (throw to Ish when he's covered, he'll still catch it), which isn't as good. Probably evens out.

We also run the ball better, which helps.

The last piece, and this is not to bash our terrific 4 year starting do-it-all QB, is a QB who can really see the whole field well. I think we can all agree that's probably not Dungey's biggest strength.

 

[upperdeck]

gaining 400 more yds rushing if we finish on avg us huge.

and we are not running temp all that much this year

 

[Trueblue25]

We are becoming an absolute powerhouse offensively and our defense is stacked with young talent. We need to reinforce the d line, keep up competiton on the o line and figure out LB.


Next year could be very special.

 

[StopCoolio]

This year proves that we really don’t ever have to worry about WRs under Dino. So many young and inexperienced guys in the mix and the passing game has been fine.

Next year we get Hendrix, Jackson, all the freshmen will be sophs and Taj will be a stud, running game will be better and keep secondaries honest...we will have guys running open all over the place.

 

[texascpa]

This year proves that we really don’t ever have to worry about WRs under Dino. So many young and inexperienced guys in the mix and the passing game has been fine.

Next year we get Hendrix, Jackson, all the freshmen will be sophs and Taj will be a stud, running game will be better and keep secondaries honest...we will have guys running open all over the place.

And a QB we know that can sling it and win.

 

[blizz]

Going off looks and feel alone I would say more balanced, more explosive, less efficient, less productive.

We've definitely run the ball more effectively this year, which is a huge net plus. We've rarely capitalized on the downfield openings that have resulted, which has been frustrating to watch.

We are really close though, to this thing being an unstoppable juggernaut that has d coordinators throwing clipboards (do they still use clipboards?) and having full on meltdowns on the sideline. Proof of concept is there. With the right group of players there is just nothing you can do to stop it.

 

[upperdeck]

If you re-watch the wake game you can see where more explosive RBs would have housed some of those holes.

2 runs in the 3rd , the 2nd one that Moe scored on, a bit stronger, quicker type back scores on the first run and doesnt have to dive in on the 2nd. our backs have some nice qualities, but while they run hard, they also go down easy and cant run thru contact/hand tackles all that well.. I hope the OK transfer put some of these runs away next yr. I think Howard also does a better job of finishing off those runs next yr too.

You like to think Howard gets a tick faster next year too after a full season of conditioning and the 2 long runs he had this year he gets that extra 5 yds next yr.

when you create the big holes it has to lead to TDs and not more redzone plays.

We are already seeing the WR group evolve. more Harris over Butler, more N. Johnson, Riley stepping it up, I think the kids in waiting can at least match Custis play if not his grit and I think we have 2-3 who can do it which is great. Deep balls that get deep enough

The oline has to match what we see now, next yr though for all this to happen.

One other thing that will help, the ball will get there quicker and the windows wont need to be as big.. Hopefully he makes the right decisions on where to throw it too.

 

[TheCusian]

gaining 400 more yds rushing if we finish on avg us huge.

and we are not running temp all that much this year

My theory on the tempo being less of a thing this year:

- The line being better means we can win with the right play more often than hoping to catch the D off guard
- The lack of guys who can straight up win on the outside WR spot (though Custis does some of that) means those one on one balls are not at reliable (esp with Eric's spotty accuracy or arm issue or whatever)
- Maybe coverage based? Are teams playing us in a way that means we can't go as fast?

I think with Tommy we turn it back up next year. But I'd love to hear what Dino has to say on the subject

 

[Chip]

My theory on the tempo being less of a thing this year:

- The line being better means we can win with the right play more often than hoping to catch the D off guard
- The lack of guys who can straight up win on the outside WR spot (though Custis does some of that) means those one on one balls are not at reliable (esp with Eric's spotty accuracy or arm issue or whatever)
- Maybe coverage based? Are teams playing us in a way that means we can't go as fast?

I think with Tommy we turn it back up next year. But I'd love to hear what Dino has to say on the subject

I also think it's the concentrated effort to press cover our WRs. A lot of the fast tempo is getting the ball outside quickly on bubble screens. We don't do it as much because DBs are always playing up on them.

When the D has to respect it all, they're toast, especially considering the success we have right now when they don't respect it all.

 

[upperdeck]

Ish ran one route much of the time last year. sideline fades and curls, ED trusted him when he wasnt open. Erv ran decision routes and again ED trusted him. so all the throws went threw them.

this year much more variety. Custis over the top and some curls. Riley slants/bubbles Johnson Bubbles and some gos, butler a little of everything, harris the same. The fact that when TD has been in and running the offense it has gone deeper and also bubbles have worked better is a great sign for the future