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Message: [QUOTE="Townie72, post: 2589191, member: 780"] Really? When I look at the 2017 final standings of the various conferences I see the same names on top of the table as I have always seen and the same names at the bottom. Occasionally, one of the teams in the middle or at the bottom will work itself up to the top tier for a brief period (e.g. Northwestern or Duke). I guess there are four major categories: - Top Tier (Sometimes these schools have bad years and drop down to the mid Tier) - Mid-Tier (Occasionally a good year and some bad years) - Bottom Feeder. (Once in a while they creep up to the Mid Tier) - Regularly vacillates between Bottom Feeder and Mid Tier [/QUOTE]