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Message: [QUOTE="IthacaMatt, post: 3613403, member: 405"] We don't have any choice. If we want to play football, we have to get better. Playing against good teams, with the investment in our facilities, our college's name recognition, our history, we should be at least a middle of the pack team. No, we are not a football factory. We don't roll that way, but in my 60 years on this planet, we have been a very good (not great) football team for about 40 or so of them. So it's not impossible. I agree that I would like a geographic realignment of the divisions. It would really help us, and all the northeast teams. These "forced rivalries" have not taken hold, for the most part. But the ACC is not "above" us. We have played and beaten "name" programs in basketball and in football, punching above our weight, the whole damn time. That's who we are. That's Syracuse football! [/QUOTE]