Arne Duncan said something about JB?

[jr4750]

Yeesh, what next...

 

[RMH44]

Yeah, what next...

Who cares...Duncan is a complete moron. Part of the Chicago cartel.

 

[BrookhavenCuse]

Yeah, what next...

Did Kevin Harlan also say something about Cuse being ineligble next year due to APR, I swear Harlan made that statement.

 

[dasher]

Who cares...Duncan is a complete moron. Part of the Chicago cartel.

. When a sec of education says something about your basketball coach, it's very bad.

 

[NFGenROC]

I assume it goes back to these comments from 2011.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2011-03-16-arne-duncan-ncaa-grad-rates_N.htm

 

[jr4750]

. When a sec of education says something about your basketball coach, it's very bad.

Agreed. Jb has to shut the h#%^ up. Like yesterday.

 

[mike32768]

Agreed. Jb has to shut the h#%^ up. Like yesterday.

Yes, he's not talking to/about reporters.

 

[RMH44]

. When a sec of education says something about your basketball coach, it's very bad.

I've worked in education for three decades...Duncan is an a$$clown who is riding his Chicago connections for all they're worth.
Besides, what phucking power does the Sec of Ed have...it's one of the departments that should be abolished.

 

[mike32768]

it's one of the departments that should be abolished.

Agreed, one of many.

But in the meantime, Boeheim would do well to keep his trap shut. Discretion, JB, discretion.

 

[Orangemen]

I posted this in another thread...

Frankly, Arne Duncan doesn't know what he's talking about. He's a politician using cheap one liners to cover up the fact that he doesn't know why kids don't graduate.

"Pearl got mad at me and said, 'Send me better kids,' which I'm happy to work on," Duncan said. "But you look at (Tennessee women's coach)​

Pat Summitt​

. She's frankly much more successful on the court than he is, and her players graduate."​

Of course, the women's team doesn't have a league ready to give their players $3M per year to leave early, but Duncan's not trying to make a difference, he's trying to look good in a headline.​

Every school is not Harvard (where he played). He just doesn't seem to understand that.​

 

[RMH44]

Agreed, one of many.

But in the meantime, Boeheim would do well to keep his trap shut. Discretion, JB, discretion.

Agreed

 

[DeGrozz]

I read a few articles on Arne's comments yesterday and I didn't hear him call out any teams in the comments that were published.

 

[RoysRunts]

Jim just spent his last part of the press conference explaining the APR/being on the Board with the Hartford president (his this is Nuts comment) and Myles Brand.
Good for Jim If someone's lieing about you don't keep your mouth shut. My ? is where is the University spokesman taking USA Today to task. BRAVO JIM

 

[SBU72]

Did Kevin Harlan also say something about Cuse being ineligble next year due to APR, I swear Harlan made that statement.

According to Christine Brennan of USA Today, if next years APR standards were applied to this years field, the following teams would be ineligible: UConn, SU, Florida St, Indiana. S. Miss, St. Louis, Colorado, Colorado St., Miss. Valley St, New Mexico St., Norfolk St., Ohio and Bona. That's almost a whole bracket!

JB's complaint is that no consideration is taken for students who leave to go pro and that the pros run their draft camp DURING school months which obligies kids to miss school to attend. Any other student who leaves school to earn a living doesn't impact the school, so why should atheletes.

 

[jr4750]

According to Christine Brennan of USA Today, if next years APR standards were applied to this years field, the following teams would be ineligible: UConn, SU, Florida St, Indiana. S. Miss, St. Louis, Colorado, Colorado St., Miss. Valley St, New Mexico St., Norfolk St., Ohio and Bona. That's almost a whole bracket!

JB's complaint is that no consideration is taken for students who leave to go pro and that the pros run their draft camp DURING school months which obligies kids to miss school to attend. Any other student who leaves school to earn a living doesn't impact the school, so why should atheletes.

How the heck would Kentucky be eligible??

 

[SBU72]

How the heck would Kentucky be eligible??

The guys left in good standing. I guess it's easy to take your basket weaving projects on the road with you.

 

[armory]

whats worse? the sec of education discussing a private college's bball coach? or the actual department of education?

 

[mike32768]

Any other student who leaves school to earn a living doesn't impact the school, so why should atheletes.

The APR is an NCAA-ism. Therefore as best I can tell, it is ONLY for athletes. It's obviously an attempt by the NCAA to enforce some kind academic discipline on student athletes (which is/can be particularly crummy for BBall for the reasons cited above).

The school, itself, cares about its overall graduation rate (for the "any other student") for other reasons... the NCAA's concern being a small part.

 

[mike32768]

whats worse? the sec of education discussing a private college's bball coach? or the actual department of education?

Yes

 

[MSOrange]

Arne Duncan - you've made me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.
Let's look at our senior classes for the last several years
10-11 Rick Jackson graduated
09-10 Andy Rautins and Arinze Onuaku both graduated
08-09 Kristof Ongenaet - pretty sure he graduated but not 100%
07-08 Josh Wright - that's a miss
06-07 Demetris Nichols and Matt Gorman both graduated. Pretty sure that Terrence Roberts and Darryl Watkins did as well but if somebody could confirm that would be great
05-06 GMac graduated
04-05 Craig Forth obviously graduated and so did Hakim Warrick. I am almost positive that Josh Pace did as well but not 100%
03-04 I am pretty sure Jeremy McNeil graduated
02-03 Kueth Duany graduated.
Before that, we had Ryan Blackwell, Jason Hart, Etan Thomas. Marius Janulis, JB Reafsnyder and any any number of guys that were at Syracuse all four years leave with their degrees. Of those that did not, Paul Harris, Carmelo, Eric Devendorf, Jonny Flynn and Donte Green among others are all playing professionally so it's not like they are living on the street and not contributing to society. And I'm sure if they wanted to return to get their degree after their playing days are over, the door is open. Bottom line in recent years, if players stay for all 4 years on the Hill, there is a pretty damn good chance they are going to leave with a degree. Sure there are going to be some misses but so does the general student population! I am not a Syracuse grad but I love Syracuse more than my own alma mater to be honest. Hey Arne, can I have your secretary's phone number? I'd like to make any appointment to come up to Washington DC so you can kiss my ass!

 

[RoysRunts]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/27/e...ee-on-panel-amid-dc-schools-inquiry.html?_r=1

 

[mike32768]

OK, so a member of an ultra-liberal president's cabinet to criticize (most likely WITHOUT the facts - why does that sound familiar?) the performance of "white guys" (my words) like Boeheim working at private entities (like SU/NCAA) that operate on a for-profit basis, but when it's about the poor performance of a minority woman, running a failing publicly funded institution (like DC schools) - that same cabinet member goes to bat for her.

Yeah, I get it.

 

[DoctorBombay]

OK, so a member of an ultra-liberal president's cabinet to criticize (most likely WITHOUT the facts - why does that sound familiar?) the performance of "white guys" (my words) like Boeheim working at private entities (like SU/NCAA) that operate on a for-profit basis, but when it's about the poor performance of a minority woman, running a failing publicly funded institution (like DC schools) - that same cabinet member goes to bat for her.

Yeah, I get it.