Ash, Please dont tell me that DM is back to his lack of practice BS

[IthacaBarrel]

Could be because hasn't done much other than a few nice runs versus stony, call me crazy but he looks like a good athlete without a position

 

[All4SU]

Wrong Doug needs to play talent. Play guys who can get it done. They dont keep score at practice.

Really think you're wrong on this one kc. Football is a game of discipline. Players have to put forth the effort in practice...even the good ones. I think we saw with Sales that practice effort was not his only issue. He needed discipline and maturity too.

 

[orangenauburn]

Yeah, Ashton Broyld is the man. Completely brings it come game day. Like, I mean, he only fumbled once during a critical moment against Minnesota. Keep doing your thang, Ashton!

true frosh

he didn't throw those horrible picks did he?

 

[All4SU]

One thing everyone should keep in mind is that WE don't know if bad practice habits is in fact why Broyld hasn't played much.

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And we KNOW he has a long way to go to be considered a decent blocker.

 

[Chip]

I don't even think Broyld should even have to go to practice.

Not even sure we should have them. Just roll the ball out there on game day and let the fastest guy pick it up and run with it.


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[Orijinal]

true frosh

he didn't throw those horrible picks did he?

I'm not gonna cut this kid much slack right now. Still don't appreciate that high school outburst/tantrum he threw. Shows A LOT about his character, whether you want to believe that or not. IF that attitude has carried over into this year (and, again, I'm saying IF) then practice ethic might very well be an issue.

Want to really see this kid be a team player, whether he gets in the game or not. And the only way to test that is to not play him at times. But I am cheering for him. First, that he keeps his head on straight. And second, that he explodes as a playmaker.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

If Ashton has trouble remembering his routes and blocking assignments in practice, by all means let's throw him into a game situation.

If Ashton misses a blitz pick-up and gets Nassib killed, you'll blame Marrone anyways.

 

[kcsu]

Ok Ok i give up. Im just glad that AAM started to practice better.

 

[tep624]

One thing everyone should keep in mind is that WE don't know if bad practice habits is in fact why Broyld hasn't played much.

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Rumor or not, it's completely idiotic to condone players not practicing hard or properly. Especially a true freshman.

 

[kingottoiii]

Ok Ok i give up. Im just glad that AAM started to practice better.

My god why are you so obsessed with AAM? The kid has shown very little in real games, Spring games, and ED games.

 

[Moontan]

Play guys who can get it done.

Respect, privileges and playing time are generally earned... be it in games or in practice.
Until a player "gets it done" (on the field) this isn't even something to be concerned about.
Oh, and until then, if a player doesn't "get it done" in practice he won't have much opportunity to "get it done" during a game.

 

[baggerbob]

The real problem is ashton shouldn't have had his redshirt burned at all, after not playing in the 1st half against northwestern, and that is on doug.

 

[kcsu]

To be clear.

1: Rumor only

2: Im on record saying that if he is dogging it he doesnt play

3: Having played in college i saw first hand that some kids just didnt play as well in practice as in games. That they were "gammers"

4: I think that Sales falls into catagory 3 and that not realizing this cost Doug a very good player for a year.

5: The staff has touted Ash as being one of if not the most dynamic play makers that they have. Called him a special talent.

6: Based on last games results it is obvious that Hack didnt use AAM properly in the first four games.

 

[kcsu]

My god why are you so obsessed with AAM? The kid has shown very little in real games, Spring games, and ED games.

I think that he showed against Pitt that he should have been given the ball in the red zone a few times prior to fridays game.

 

[Dcuse]

Kevin Johnson, DC, Marvin Harrison, Bill Hurley, Rony S, Marcus Sales, Rob Carpenter, I could go on but based on being around this program longer than many have been alive those are just a few.

It's funny that you have some of the hardest working people at their craft in the history of sports on your little insider list here.

 

[007]

To be clear.

1: Rumor only

2: Im on record saying that if he is dogging it he doesnt play

3: Having played in college i saw first hand that some kids just didnt play as well in practice as in games. That they were "gammers"

4: I think that Sales falls into catagory 3 and that not realizing this cost Doug a very good player for a year.

5: The staff has touted Ash as being one of if not the most dynamic play makers that they have. Called him a special talent.

6: Based on last games results it is obvious that Hack didnt use AAM properly in the first four games.

To be even "clearer," maybe you need a bullet list defining "rumor." Because your stuff sounds/reads a lot more like a personal, biased (given your history) opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of what YOU think is going on, rather than something you have been told by an insider.

Are you the source of the rumor?

 

[kcsu]

no

To be even "clearer," maybe you need a bullet list defining "rumor." Because your stuff sounds/reads a lot more like a personal, biased (given your history) opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of what YOU think is going on, rather than something you have been told by an insider.

Are you the source of the rumor?

no

 

[SmilinBob]

Regarding playing players who don't practice well/hard...I have mixed feelings about this. What is the end goal? To win games. If player X is working his tail off and player Y is the bad practice guy and is still better...that's real life Y plays. You practice to get better and if you still are not better than the guy you're competing against and he's being productive and your not hey this is big boy football not a participation you get a trophy type thing. I get it...you want that intensity for practice by all and want to reward the guys that are doing the right things but if your being rewarded by playing hard in practice but still do not come close to the production of the guy who doesn't, it is what it is...he's better.

This post has nothing to do with the Aston rumor but just my feelings about practice.

 

[CusefanATL]

wow, ashton doesnt play 1 game and we are already bringing his hs tantrum into it, calling into question his character, and debating his practice habits. i hope he doesnt read this board... this thread makes me crazy, i could only imagine being the person talked about.

give the kid sometime. his 5 games into his CAREER. anyone that thought he was going to be superstar this year was delusional.

speaking of that, anyone that thinks zach allen will be a superstar next year with no rough patches, let this be your warning.

 

[Orijinal]

wow, ashton doesnt play 1 game and we are already bringing his hs tantrum into it, calling into question his character, and debating his practice habits. i hope he doesnt read this board... this thread makes me crazy, i could only imagine being the person talked about.

give the kid sometime. his 5 games into his CAREER. anyone that thought he was going to be superstar this year was delusional.

speaking of that, anyone that thinks zach allen will be a superstar next year with no rough patches, let this be your warning.

Actually, I hope he does read this forum. Everyone is pumping up Ashton like he has superstar status. He's a freshman. He doesn't need to believe right now that he deserves more plays than he is getting (and I know he does believe this because Marrone has said so in one of his pressers). I hope he keeps his mind right. It seems like that for the most part he has since he's been on campus, and I want to see him stay that way.

If practice is an issue (and I have no idea if it is) then it needs to quickly become a non-issue.

 

[OrangeMojo]

This isn't Alabama where these guys are expendable and can afforded to benched. If the season is on the line as if is right now, we need all hands on deck.

If the season is on the line, and a player thinks he's better than the kids that are playing but is sitting because he isn't working hard in practice - then he needs to get to practice and bust his ass to make sure he gets on the field.

If there's a clear direction for how one can get himself onto the field more - suck it up and do it! You're at practice anyway...

 

[jcuse44]

WORST. POST. EVER.

 

[RoysRunts]

couldn't disagree more. the #1 way to tear apart a team is play one kid ahead of other kids that play harder. broyld needs to buy in if he is going to be the best he can be, and if that means sending him a message as a frosh so be it. there is another kid he might want to talk to. his name is waiters, dion.

Unless your Jim Brown sitting on a tackling Dummy watching practice

 

[orangenirvana]

Marrone: "Hey, Ashton, why are you dogging it at practice? I need to see more effort from you, or you won't be seeing much time in games."

Broyld: "Nah, it's okay coach...I'm a gamer."

Marrone: "Oh! Well why didn't you say so? Carry on!"

Player 2: "Um...yeah, I'm a gamer too, coach."

Player 3: "Me three, coach."
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.
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Player 85: "Me 85, coach."

Marrone: "Alright, screw practice then. See you gamers on Saturday!"

 

[hburgcuse]

Notice that Ashton hasn't played since he lost a fumble in Minnesota territory at the end of the 3rd quarter.
Perhaps that has more to do with his lack of playing time.

Whether it's fumbling in a key spot or lack of effort in practice, or perhaps both (poor practice ---> fumble), I'm all for sending the message now.