Atlanta hasn't been burned this badly since Sherman

[DownTheField]

EDSBS is beyond hypocritical. Their entire blog is making fun of various people and programs in college football. They can't handle one comment that is beyond innocuous without blowing it up?

The Nunes post about it is also colossaly stupid. Write a post, get page views and implore SU fans not to say anything on Twitter. He's absolutely right about that, but his post just exacerbates the echo chamber. His site used to be a must read for me, but I don't feel like I'm missing much checking in a couple times a week.

I agree with all of this. EDSBS is can be funny and loves to make fun of everything about college football teams, coaches, etc. They have pretty thin skin if someone says anything about U Florida (I think), the SEC or the South.

I agree with the Nunes thing too. There is still some quality stuff, but he's pretty much jumped the shark.

 

[Timonen]

As someone who knows people that almost literally lost everything during Sandy, you're out of line comparing the two. A few hours inconvenience is nothing compared to what the Sandy victims went through.

it shouldn't get to the point of comparison. neither should be referenced flippantly. i don't assume ANY bad intent, but in hindsight the tweet is stupid and insulting. it's down and this should go away.

 

[Lou_C]

Sorry if Sandy wasn't a 1-to-1 comparison. I'll retract that.

At least 12 have died from this storm in the south so far. Maybe I should save the laughs for when the next time the temperature hits 100 in Chicago and or NY and elderly people die in their non-air conditioned homes. Dying from a mere 100 degrees? Not hardnosed. That works, right?

I wouldn't exactly call spending the night in your car in sub-freezing whether or still waiting for your kids to get home 24 hours later "a few hours of inconvenience."

That said, I like that he said it, there's no rule that a college coach can't play the heel sometimes, see Spurrier. It's good for Syracuse and ACC football and I wish he hadn't deleted the tweet. The reaction of EDBS and others is all great too.

 

[Lou_C]

ya but shouldn;t you be mad at your city and stave gov't??

Actually mainly mad at the schools that didn't cancel school, but then called an early release two hours later, every school at the same time. Plus the idiots that got into crawling traffic with 1/20th of a tank of gas and ran out.

Ultimately, it was just a bad freak occurrance of timing and surprise. This is a place who overreacts to any possibility of weather, and yet this pretty much caught everyone off guard. It was supposed to be a light flurry or dusting with no accumulation. It went from that to impassable roads before anyone knew what was happening. It just is what it is.

I'm not sure there was all that much the city could have done about it. There's not much the people that got stuck in it could have done differently if they were more #hardnosed. It was just a misfortune of time and place.

 

[Millhouse]

EDSBS is beyond hypocritical. Their entire blog is making fun of various people and programs in college football. They can't handle one comment that is beyond innocuous without blowing it up?

The Nunes post about it is also colossaly stupid. Write a post, get page views and implore SU fans not to say anything on Twitter. He's absolutely right about that, but his post just exacerbates the echo chamber. His site used to be a must read for me, but I don't feel like I'm missing much checking in a couple times a week.

what is hypocritical? they're making fun of Shafer and Syracuse.

 

[TheCusian]

Sorry if Sandy wasn't a 1-to-1 comparison. I'll retract that. At least 12 have died from this storm in the south so far. Maybe I should save the laughs for when the next time the temperature hits 100 in Chicago and or NY and elderly people die in their non-air conditioned homes. Dying from a mere 100 degrees? Not hardnosed. That works, right? I wouldn't exactly call spending the night in your car in sub-freezing whether or still waiting for your kids to get home 24 hours later "a few hours of inconvenience." That said, I like that he said it, there's no rule that a college coach can't play the heel sometimes, see Spurrier. It's good for Syracuse and ACC football and I wish he hadn't deleted the tweet. The reaction of EDBS and others is all great too.

I don't think the joke meant to disparage anyone who lost a loved one. That's truly horrible.

We get ragged on for having harsh winters all of the time - and have people die in weather related storms often. It's a given that they are not trashing tragic events. We certainly don't take it that way.

I wan in a pretty bad ice related car crash and don't take weather jokes personally. It's in the "crap happens" category.

I agree on it being fine - no problem with any coach stirring the pot a little.

 

[Lou_C]

Oh, and I'm pretty sure Shafer, or whoever wrote this, had in mind the typical "shut down" that Southern cities go through when a half inch of snow is predicted, so school is cancelled and everyone stays home from work and the stores are emptied of bread and milk. That absolutely happens, and is fairly funny.

I don't think he meant to be a dick about it and probably didn't realize that this wasn't that scenario at all, and that thousands of people were actually put in very bad spot because of it.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Do people making Hurricane Sandy comparisons realize Syracuse is in the middle of the State? We were affected as much from that Hurricane as Kansas was.

 

[Timonen]

Oh, and I'm pretty sure Shafer, or whoever wrote this, had in mind the typical "shut down" that Southern cities go through when a half inch of snow is predicted, so school is cancelled and everyone stays home from work and the stores are emptied of bread and milk. That absolutely happens, and is fairly funny.

I don't think he meant to be a dick about it and probably didn't realize that this wasn't that scenario at all, and that thousands of people were actually put in very bad spot because of it.

yeah, like the one two weeks ago where they canceled school for "cold" with zero precipitation. i went off on that. accordingly, i didn't take yesterday seriously until it was too late (not that anybody could have done much differently if they tried to get home).

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Coach Scott Shafer‏@Coach_Shafer31 secs
Hey, no harm meant to those affected by the storm #BleedOrange

 

[OrangeCrush22]

Sorry if Sandy wasn't a 1-to-1 comparison. I'll retract that.

At least 12 have died from this storm in the south so far. Maybe I should save the laughs for when the next time the temperature hits 100 in Chicago and or NY and elderly people die in their non-air conditioned homes. Dying from a mere 100 degrees? Not hardnosed. That works, right?

I wouldn't exactly call spending the night in your car in sub-freezing whether or still waiting for your kids to get home 24 hours later "a few hours of inconvenience."

That said, I like that he said it, there's no rule that a college coach can't play the heel sometimes, see Spurrier. It's good for Syracuse and ACC football and I wish he hadn't deleted the tweet. The reaction of EDBS and others is all great too.

That's okay, I already do that.

 

[Scooch]

My God, Twitter is just the worst at incubating our horrendous Culture of Offense (tm).

YOU SAID SOMETHING VAGUELY INAPPROPRIATE,
I AM HORRIFIED AND OFFENDED,
YOU ARE THE WORLD'S GREATEST MONSTER!!!!!
COME, MINIONS OF TWITTER, LET US DESCEND UPON THIS PERSON AND EXTRACT OUR VENGEANCE!!!!!!!!!!

 

[texascpa]

Yours. I can assure you, Spencer Hall is well aware of Syracuse and who's coaching it.

Great, one guy. Give me a break.

 

[CanadianSU]

These Atlanta guys are proving there soft with there reactions.

 

[mscanlo]

I'm with Lou_C on this one.

People are touchy because it was an absolute nightmare here in Atlanta last night. Make fun all you want, but the 1 inch last night was basically the equivalent of the Blizzard of 93 in Syracuse. Both cities unprepared to handle the unusual volume of snow for their respective city. However, we were fortunate at the time in Syracuse because the storm came on the weekend (I believe?).

Atlanta underestimated the storm yesterday, and for a city who already has enough traffic problems when it rains, or the sun is too bright on the road, all hell broke loose and people have been blaming each other the whole day (although, I think we all can share a little of the blame here in Atlanta fro underestimating the storm).

Personally, I don't really like the comment, whether from HCSS himself or not, after commuting home and then spending part of the night in the cold helping people who were getting stuck at a bottom of the hill.

Keep in mind, most people in Atlanta don't bundle up and have a full winter wardrobe, nor commute with it everyday to work. I would consider the people who spent the night outside, or walked the 5 or 10+ miles to wherever they could, pretty hard nose. I know i was freezing after being outside for 2-3 hours.

 

[OrangeCrush22]

My God, Twitter is just the worst at incubating our horrendous Culture of Offense (tm).

YOU SAID SOMETHING VAGUELY INAPPROPRIATE,
I AM HORRIFIED AND OFFENDED,
YOU ARE THE WORLD'S GREATEST MONSTER!!!!!
COME, MINIONS OF TWITTER, LET US DESCEND UPON THIS PERSON AND EXTRACT OUR VENGEANCE!!!!!

Twitter minions have to have a moral crusade at least once a week. The last major one was the South African woman who joked about AIDS in Africa. Before that it was the woman who dressed up like a Boston marathon victim for a Halloween party. The moral reactions to these instances of exercising free expression are usually death threats, and being fired from your occupation, because justice.

 

[PhatOrange]

People in NY die all the time because of the winter. Do people in the south take that into consideration when theyre ragging on Syracuse winters. Such is life.

Atlanta = softnosed

 

[anomander]

People in NY die all the time because of the winter. Do people in the south take that into consideration when theyre ragging on Syracuse winters.

Atlanta = softnosed

seriously. everyone needs to relax, it was a joke, there was no harm meant. gimme a break

 

[Cadillac]

Wish it was from @CuseFootball, wouldn't mind some attitude there.

From the HC's account? Stupid.

 

[shandeezy7]

People in NY die all the time because of the winter. Do people in the south take that into consideration when theyre ragging on Syracuse winters. Such is life.

Atlanta = softnosed

Yup there were three fatal accidents in CNY just this week that were weather-related.

 

[mscanlo]

i'd take a driving in snow storm in syracuse any day over driving in one inch in atlanta yesterday

 

[retro44]

I'm taking up a collection so we can send Atlanta shovels, salt, and towels to wipe up their tears.

there's enough salt in them tears

 

[suloyalfan]

I don't for a minute think Shafer wrote this tweet.I'm from Syracuse and I know Coach better than that.I do know that the South is not equipped to handle these situations like we are.It would be stupid to tie up money in a ton of equipment and stockpile salt and sand like we do for those situations.Quit ragging on them and show some class.

The problem isn't "not being equipped". The problem is that they had advanced warning of the coming storm and chose to ignore it and ended up in bad situations. I lived in Greenville, SC previously and if there was even a hint of ice/snow coming, everything was shut down and nobody left their houses. The problem isn't Shafer's tweet... the problem is that the people and leadership of Atlanta didn't make plans according to their situation (not being equipped to handle this type of weather). It's unfortunate, but with the availability of information these days this should never happen, at least not to the extent that it happened there. There will always be some knuckleheads that get themselves stuck or ignore the warnings, but it shouldn't have been a city wide issue of this magnitude.

 

[suloyalfan]

Do people making Hurricane Sandy comparisons realize Syracuse is in the middle of the State? We were affected as much from that Hurricane as Kansas was.

No, it's "Southerner's" trying to make comparison to misfortune that hit "Northerner's"... it has nothing to do with where Syracuse is in the "North" related to the hurricane.

I'll relate a story from when we were living in Greenville, South Carolina (I'm from CNY)... my wife worked with a lady that had jury duty. She was on the jury for an armed robbery... and one of the witnesses was being asked to describe his attackers... his response was something to the effect of he was sure that they were "foreigners" and he could tell by their accents. When pressed further on what type of accent they had, he elaborated that they had "Northern" accents... this was within the last 5 years, not a story from 50 years ago... the culture of "North" vs. "South" is still strong even almost 150 years after the last shot was fired in the Civil War.

 

[retro44]

The problem isn't "not being equipped". The problem is that they had advanced warning of the coming storm and chose to ignore it and ended up in bad situations. I lived in Greenville, SC previously and if there was even a hint of ice/snow coming, everything was shut down and nobody left their houses. The problem isn't Shafer's tweet... the problem is that the people and leadership of Atlanta didn't make plans according to their situation (not being equipped to handle this type of weather). It's unfortunate, but with the availability of information these days this should never happen, at least not to the extent that it happened there. There will always be some knuckleheads that get themselves stuck or ignore the warnings, but it shouldn't have been a city wide issue of this magnitude.

The money crunchers of all shapes and sizes probably had something to do with the total lack of common sense here. There has been numerous days this winter where my wife and kids knew school was going to be delayed or closed the day ahead of time from the weather forecasts.

People always want to blame the people who had no control of decisions to ignore the weather forecast.Probably some staffer of the Atlanta mayor's office saw this tweet and ran with this to deflect attention.