Austin Rivers leaving

[mountaincuse]

From the sound of it Duke isn't exactly sad to see him go, plenty of big ego personality issues it sounds like.

 

[Orangemen]

From the sound of it Duke isn't exactly sad to see him go, plenty of big ego personality issues it sounds like.

It's scary how often you can tell someones personality just by looking at their face. Rivers face says a$$hole all the way, and I've never heard a single opinion contradict that.

 

[TinyManInside]

Great individual talent, poor basketball player.

It was so weird watching him play on Duke. He was like the ultimate antithesis of a Duke player, very selfish, no interest in working with the team, didn't really make the team any better.

 

[MyMeloMyMan]

Coach K is thrilled...

 

[STEVEHOLT]

you gotta be careful with these one and done types. they dont always help a program and can waste some years for team players in the process.

tim thomas: nova as rivers: duke

 

[Orangeyes]

you gotta be careful with these one and done types. they dont always help a program and can waste some years for team players in the process.

tim thomas: nova as rivers: duke

Irving played a few games last year & Rivers one year that's why a mid major beat them, they had more experience at the point & a great baller.

 

[br801]

It's scary how often you can tell someones personality just by looking at their face. Rivers face says a$$hole all the way, and I've never heard a single opinion contradict that.

I heard a rumor that his mother likes him.

 

[Knicks411]

I think he'll do well in the NBA fwiw.

I also thought James Harden would do okay, so I'm an expert in these things!

I can see him doing well in the league; he seems to be able to get to the rim no matter what.

I liked Harden too, I seem to remember the general consensus of the board in 09 was that Harden was overrated and Flynn was better than him. Whoops.

 

[PoppyHart]

Duke will be fine.Anybody writing them off is being beyond short-sighted.

Yes, they lose Rivers and Miles Plumlee.

But they will have 3 5-star newcomers in Marshall Plumlee, Alex Murphy, and Sulaimon.

And they are still in the running for Muhammed, Tony Parker, and Jefferson.

 

[PoppyHart]

I can see him doing well in the league; he seems to be able to get to the rim no matter what.

I liked Harden too, I seem to remember the general consensus of the board in 09 was that Harden was overrated and Flynn was better than him. Whoops.

The majority of the board decided to downgrade Harden based on one game against the zone in 2009.

 

[br801]

The majority of the board decided to downgrade Harden based on one game against the zone in 2009.

You mean a one game sample isn't enough to predict somebody's future?

 

[qdawgg]

I heard a rumor that his mother likes him.

My source says the opposite

 

[Orangeyes]

I can see him doing well in the league; he seems to be able to get to the rim no matter what.

I liked Harden too, I seem to remember the general consensus of the board in 09 was that Harden was overrated and Flynn was better than him. Whoops.

Most of us had never seen Harden play in full health. I saw him once and he had a horrible game. Sometimes we are too quick to judge. Fortunatly, at a later date, that will be left for someone else to do.

 

[br801]

I can see him doing well in the league; he seems to be able to get to the rim no matter what.

I liked Harden too, I seem to remember the general consensus of the board in 09 was that Harden was overrated and Flynn was better than him. Whoops.

In fairness to Flynn, he was drafted by a horrible organization, forced to play in a bad system and has had chronic hip problems after his rookie year. Did your crystal ball tell you that before the draft? I hope Flynn regains his health and gets the opportunity to realize his potential.

 

[Knicks411]

In fairness to Flynn, he was drafted by a horrible organization, forced to play in a bad system and has had chronic hip problems after his rookie year. Did your crystal ball tell you that before the draft? I hope Flynn regains his health and gets the opportunity to realize his potential.

No, but Harden is the third best player on one of the 3 best teams in the NBA. It's not like he is just an average player and is only better than Flynn because Flynn got hurt and was drafted onto a team that didn't fit him. The odds seem pretty low that even if Jonny was healthy he'd be as good as Harden. Which was my point at the time.

Jonny is a short guard who wasn't a great outside shooter. His draft stock went up because of a nice run in the BET and Ncaa tournament; there were plenty of signs that he was going to be overdrafted. At the time I was lower on his NBA chances than most here. I'm not trying to toot my horn here (well, not that much, at least) but this isn't revisionist history on my part. And it's not exactly like I am making a crazy argument; Harden was more highly ranked than Flynn coming out of high school, was more decorated in college (made first team AA as a soph), was more highly thought of in the draft, and has been a better player in the NBA.

The larger point was more that a lot of people here dismissed Harden based off one game that he played against us.

 

[br801]

No, but Harden is the third best player on one of the 3 best teams in the NBA. It's not like he is just an average player and is only better than Flynn because Flynn got hurt and was drafted onto a team that didn't fit him. The odds seem pretty low that even if Jonny was healthy he'd be as good as Harden. Which was my point at the time.

Jonny is a short guard who wasn't a great outside shooter. His draft stock went up because of a nice run in the BET and Ncaa tournament; there were plenty of signs that he was going to be overdrafted. At the time I was lower on his NBA chances than most here. I'm not trying to toot my horn here (well, not that much, at least) but this isn't revisionist history on my part.

I wasn't trying to argue that Flynn is or could be a better player than Harden or where they should have been drafted, I was just pointing out that Flynn's situation and subsequent injury problems have prevented us from seeing just how good an NBA player he might be. Hell, they don't even play the same position.

 

[Knicks411]

I wasn't trying to argue that Flynn is or could be a better player than Harden or where they should have been drafted, I was just pointing out that Flynn's situation and subsequent injury problems have prevented us from seeing just how good an NBA player he might be. Hell, they don't even play the same position.

No question on that, and it sucks for him. He definitely would've been better off in a system that played to his strengths.

 

[qdawgg]

He might have been better in a different situation but there are so many good guards in the league and he would have never been up to their level.