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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4629576, member: 5685"] I think titles should be weighted higher. But if you took Ws, W%, F4s, Titles and looked at the Final 4 (Top 4), Elite 8, Sweet 16, Round of 32 of each category you would get... F4 in all four (Ws, W%, F4s, Titles) 3 teams - Kentucky, UNC, Duke E8 in all four 2 teams - Kansas, UCLA S16 in all four 1 team - SU R32 in all four 8 teams - Indiana, Cincinnati, Utah, Nova, Arizona, UConn, Arkansas, Louisville There is a clear separation with the Top 5. Those IMO are your Blue Bloods. By no means are we the 6th best program of all time. But I found it interesting at how good we are when comparing the four categories. We deserve a 2nd title. Then again if any of the one title teams wins a 2nd, we fall back to the R32 group. This probably needs to be weighted though where Titles, Final Fours, W%, Ws are all accounted for but not equally. Round of 32s not making the cut... Ws Temple, Notre Dame, St Johns, Purdue, Texas, Illinois, Western Kentucky, BYU, West Virginia, Washington, Penn, Michigan State, Princeton, Oregon State, NC State, Gonzaga, Ohio State, Alabama W% Charleston, UNLV, Western Kentucky, Murray State, VCU, Norfolk State, Notre Dame, Illinois, St Johns, Purdue, Temple, Memphis, Lipscomb, UAB, Weber State, Missouri State, Texas, BYU Final Fours Ohio State, Michigan State, Michigan, Houston, Oklahoma State, Florida, Georgetown, Illinois, Oklahoma, Kansas State, LSU, UNLV, Wisconsin, Baylor, Cal, Iowa, Marquette, NC State, San Francisco, Texas, UVA, Memphis Titles Florida, Michigan State, NC State, Oklahoma State, San Francisco, Baylor, Cal, CCNY, Georgetown, Holy Cross, La Salle, Loyola, Marquette, Maryland, Ohio State, Oregon, Stanford, UNLV, UTEP, UVA, Wisconsin, Wyoming In fairness UNLV has only had a program since 1959 which keeps their overall Ws low. They probably deserve to be in the S16 with us. There are plenty of teams that just need a little bump to join the R32 teams. Teams with that are three quarters of the way there... Texas, Illinois, Michigan State, NC State, Ohio State, UNLV [/QUOTE]

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