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Message: [QUOTE="Alsacs, post: 2020927, member: 652"] I think the guy used I don't have a vote though. You can have the fair belief innocent until proven guilty. I think Todd Helton, Jim Thome,Frank Thomas are the 1b I would put in from that time. If you wanted to put steroid guys as well Mark McGuire, Rafael Palmerio would be ahead. I consider Fred McGriff ahead of Bagwell. Jason Giambi will be interesting if roid guys are considered. For the record I omitted the obvious Albert Pujols. [/QUOTE]