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Message: [QUOTE="Scooch, post: 4024856, member: 628"] Yep. And for a while every time we started to generate something it would get sidelined. The rivalry with Penn State was really a one-sided affair, but it would have been hot in the 90s had they not ended the series because JoePa was an -ss--le. Then we had good things going with Miami, WVU and VT in the 90s, but Miami/VT were squashed when they left for the ACC. SU-WVU was a nice thing until that got squashed by conference changes too. The SU/Pitt dynamic is so incredibly weird. Always one side crushing the other for long stretches. That really should be our primary rival... industrial cities, history of football success, long time opponent, etc. But we've almost never played each other where both teams had stakes in the game. It's kind wild really. [/QUOTE]