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Message: [QUOTE="Alsacs, post: 1110185, member: 652"] This is just patently false while VPI craps the bed in big games they have won 4 ACC titles since 2004, have played in 2 Sugar Bowls, 3 Orange Bowls winning 1 BCS game. Syracuse played in Orange Bowl back in 1999 and you want to stay Syracuse has more creditability? Our FB brand has taken a nose dive we are back to being average while VPI is top 25 every 2 years. UNC and VPI have fertile recruiting grounds that SU doesn't. How you think Georgia Tech is better nationally perceived than VPI is mystifying. The Hokies don't close the deal but they are a national player. North Carolina has a great brand and if their coach uses the talent the program is starting get they have a chance to be good almost yearly. Syracuse needs 1 top 300 recruit I mean we at overrating ourselves a lot if we think we are level with the Jokies. [/QUOTE]