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Message: [QUOTE="HtownOrange, post: 1110553, member: 622"] My fault, CPA. I was attempting to distinguish between teams will substantive histories from those with flash in the pan, inflated histories. When people try to place the burden of carrying the ACC and the soon to be ACCN on the shoulders of VATech, BC and UNC football, you might as well claim FSU, Miami and BC hoops as the foundation of ACC hoops instead of Duke, UNC, Syracuse, Lousiville, ND, NCState hoops. Obviously in football we need FSU, Clemson and Miami to be good, they are the biggest names. We also need the historical schools to rise up to there status, GATech, Pitt and Syracuse, maybe NCState. I am not slamming the other schools they just lack long term substantive history to strike memories in long time CFB fans, especially outside the ACC region. I like Louisville and what they have done, but they are no football power, they are relatively new to the game. Beamer has done a good job and built a fine record in Blacksburg but he lacks the substantive record to impress the long term CFB fans. If a network is going to be built, the powers that be and the historical power must carry their weight. Louisville's history is barely a decade old. VATechs is barely two decades and has only one coach of note. Schools with substantive histories have the following traits, they: 1) win, 2) win big games, 3) win over time, 4) win big games over time, 5) with different coaches (PSU gets the waiver as JoePa was there 50 years). One of the main reasons the SECN is an immediate success is that their product is historically a great product. No one believes that Vandy is the key to their success, though they have winning seasons every now and then. Their hoops is solely built on Kentucky and it will be interesting to see their viewership after the CFB season. Yes, they have some other good teams, but none carry a deep history that will compel non-SEC hoops fans to watch. Contrast that with ACC hoops, Duke, UNC, Syracuse, Louisville and ND draw well and get people to watch outside of the normal base. Nationally, no one cares whether BC, Clemson, FSU or Miami are playing hoops. In football, older CFB fans don't care about several ACC schools shifting the burden to the schools that can draw their attention, schools with histories. Again, my fault and my apology for derailing the thread with a finer point and getting us off on a rabbit trail of bashing VATech.* *Not that bashing VATech is a bad thing, we had a heated rivalry back in the ACC ... and we lead the series by 1 game, it just needs a separate thread. [/QUOTE]

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