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Message: [QUOTE="HtownOrange, post: 1110572, member: 622"] Again, this is where age may be the issue. Clemson won a national title, 1981, which in and of itself is a very high distinguishing credit. Clemson wins big games and wins bowl games. Clemson does not always choke, as does VATech. Yes, VATech had the better record for their first decade in the ACC compared to Clemson, but before that Clemson was light years ahead of VATech. Additionally, this proves my point that Beamer is an opportunist, he wins when teams are down and against weak teams but he fails to win the big games, which earns respect outside of a teams normal circles, read nationally. However, the last couple of years Clemson is by far a much stronger team than VATech. To further my point, under your analysis, VATech should be dominating Syracuse because Syracuse went through the down period, stating shortly after Big East football formed. However, VATech at their best is even with Syracuse during a down period, 6-6 during the Big East years, the same period you anoint VATech the team the football prophecies say will carry the ACCN. You can believe that VATech carries weight nationally. That is your viewpoint. My viewpoint is otherwise and is based on the facts that I have lived mostly outside of ACC territory for nearly 25 years in several states and within the other conference territories. VATech does not strike fear in any power team. Teamss that do not win big games and win bowl games and play pansy schedules do not get respect. GATech even won a championship in 1990. Another proof of what people think is this link: [url]http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3842161[/url] These are the Prestige Rankings: Syracuse 29th, VATech 37th. The list was compiled in 2009 when Syracuse was still digging out of the depths of our despair and VATech was riding at their peak! Anyway, time to focus on the ACCN. Mods, we may need a VATech bashing thread. Perhaps a bashing thread for each ACC team? [/QUOTE]

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