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Agree on Parcells, and I think Don Shula was pretty good with two different teams.

Heck Tony Dungy did good things with two teams, (he's underrated) but I am not putting him ahead of BB.
Parcels left the patriots during superbowl week

I love the tuna but that’s an insane take. He was barely 500 w the pats. The rebuild bb did and the balls to go w Brady over Bledsoe is lost to historical dementia

BB is the best ever and every single owner would pick him in the coach draft

Having said that, he’s embarrassing himself right now due to being pssy whipped, dementia setting in like Landry or just pure old age

Very woody Hayes ending here
 
The rebuild bb did and the balls to go w Brady over Bledsoe is lost to historical dementia

BB is the best ever and every single owner would pick him in the coach draft
No one wanted Bill a couple of years ago so I'm not sure about that.

As for the rebuild, yes, it happened but all tied with Brady. Bill hadn't done anything until Tom started. Once Tom left, the program went to crap again. Also, Brady got in due to Bledsoe's injury so not so sure about having balls to go with Tom. By the time Bledsoe was healthy again, Brady was playing so well that of course, you're going to stay with him.
 
Parcels left the patriots during superbowl week

I love the tuna but that’s an insane take. He was barely 500 w the pats. The rebuild bb did and the balls to go w Brady over Bledsoe is lost to historical dementia

BB is the best ever and every single owner would pick him in the coach draft

Having said that, he’s embarrassing himself right now due to being pssy whipped, dementia setting in like Landry or just pure old age

Very woody Hayes ending here
I wish he would strike a player on camera. That would make it very quick and super easy.
 
No one wanted Bill a couple of years ago so I'm not sure about that.

As for the rebuild, yes, it happened but all tied with Brady. Bill hadn't done anything until Tom started. Once Tom left, the program went to crap again. Also, Brady got in due to Bledsoe's injury so not so sure about having balls to go with Tom. By the time Bledsoe was healthy again, Brady was playing so well that of course, you're going to stay with him.
No NFL franchise wants him now. All would love to have a 55 year old Belichick. But that man is dead to this present. 73 year old Belichick is clearly over the hill.
 
Parcels left the patriots during superbowl week

I love the tuna but that’s an insane take. He was barely 500 w the pats. The rebuild bb did and the balls to go w Brady over Bledsoe is lost to historical dementia

BB is the best ever and every single owner would pick him in the coach draft

Having said that, he’s embarrassing himself right now due to being pssy whipped, dementia setting in like Landry or just pure old age

Very woody Hayes ending here
I don’t dislike or disrespect younger BB, but Parcells motivated those Giants teams. He set the tone. He made them tough and nasty. He elevated BB from assistant special teams coach to DC. He brought him back when BB had middling results in Cleveland and resurrected his career only to be stabbed when he set him up to be the next Jets coach and had it thrown in his face. Scott Pioli, (Parcells’ son-in-law) drafted Tom Brady.
 
I wish he would strike a player on camera. That would make it very quick and super easy.
Awkward Jay Z GIF by Complex
 
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Very woody Hayes ending here
I guess some readers here don't realize that Woody Hayes punched a Clemson player on the field after making an interception of an OSU pass in the Gator Bowl toward the end of the game. Hayes was fired for the incident, so it was his last game as Ohio State coach, after an illustrious career in which he won 5 national championships.
 
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No one wanted Bill a couple of years ago so I'm not sure about that.

As for the rebuild, yes, it happened but all tied with Brady. Bill hadn't done anything until Tom started. Once Tom left, the program went to crap again. Also, Brady got in due to Bledsoe's injury so not so sure about having balls to go with Tom. By the time Bledsoe was healthy again, Brady was playing so well that of course, you're going to stay with him.

I don’t think you remember that 01 team and how risky it was to stick w brady over a guy they just signed the largest contract in nfl history with. But sure easy decision

That team was all bb. The d, the tone, the culture change. He inherited a salary cap calamity.

Not sure I’d want current day bags of bones Lombardi or the dementia Landry of 1987. Talking peak bb. He’s the best to ever do it. I can’t believe you guys think Parcells is a comp.
The only comps for bb are Paul brown, Walsh, et al.
 
I don’t think you remember that 01 team and how risky it was to stick w brady over a guy they just signed the largest contract in nfl history with. But sure easy decision

That team was all bb. The d, the tone, the culture change. He inherited a salary cap calamity.

Not sure I’d want current day bags of bones Lombardi or the dementia Landry of 1987. Talking peak bb. He’s the best to ever do it. I can’t believe you guys think Parcells is a comp.
The only comps for bb are Paul brown, Walsh, et al.

Peyton Manning wishes Belichick was a bad HC. He would have a dozen titles.
 
He was always a great defensive strategist. He found the perfect place for himself in New England. His coarse personality fit in. He was innovative in an incredibly risk adverse NFL. Found some good assistants to help run things. Loved to look for undervalued players like Wes Welker, Julian Edelman, many of their OL... Eventually the league caught up. Analytics became a big deal. Other teams offenses became as aggressive as Brady and the Patriots were. Every year he had try and draft diamonds in the rough out of small schools and after a few bad drafts, the talent on the team really fell off. It's always been considered a positive for Bill that none of his assistants ever found success as coaches but it may be more indicative that the magic they had in New England those year really couldn't be exported. Every other successful head coach was able to develop future head coaches but not Belichick. His negative coaching style worked because of the built in culture. Very hard to recreate that.

He has the Super Bowl rings but he's past his prime. Every NFL team would take him as a defensive consultant but no one will ever give him a head coaching job. His ego and sense of his own greatness became too big. He's a unique guy and can't just take a year off and go back to the 57 year old Bill.
 
I don’t think you remember that 01 team and how risky it was to stick w brady over a guy they just signed the largest contract in nfl history with. But sure easy decision

That team was all bb. The d, the tone, the culture change. He inherited a salary cap calamity.

Not sure I’d want current day bags of bones Lombardi or the dementia Landry of 1987. Talking peak bb. He’s the best to ever do it. I can’t believe you guys think Parcells is a comp.
The only comps for bb are Paul brown, Walsh, et al.
Well, I guess we just see things differently. I'd go with Reid over BB all day long without any hesitation (for reasons already stated). Reid, unlike BB, has been very successful across eras, teams, and QBs.
 
I can’t believe you guys think Parcells is a comp.
The only comps for bb are Paul brown, Walsh, et al.
I'm not sure you are as familiar with Bill Parcells and the job he did with the Giants, which includes elevating and enabling (and mentoring) BB. The controversy, sticking with the wrong QB, winning a SB with the backup, crafting a team around his own tough guy defense first persona and mentality... Lets not forget that at least three other franchises turned to him to turn themselves around, including your NE Patriots, (Jets, Dallas, Atlanta [nixed by Pete Rozelle], Miami).

From Wiki:

Feeling dissatisfied with his life away from football, Parcells returned to the sport in 1980 as the linebackers coach of the New England Patriots under Ron Erhardt. It was during this stint with the Patriots that Parcells adopted his "Big Tuna" nickname. Whenever he thought his players were trying to get away with something, Parcells would yell "Who do you think I am? Charlie the Tuna?," referencing a StarKist commercial of the era featuring a naive cartoon fish named, "Charlie the Tuna."

The following season, Parcells was approached once again by Perkins to join the Giants' staff as an assistant coach, and Parcells accepted the offer. As defensive coordinator and linebackers coach, he was allowed to change the team's 4–3 defense to a 3–4 system.

When Perkins announced on December 15, 1982, that he was leaving the Giants at the end of the season to become head coach and athletic director at the University of Alabama, the Giants announced that Parcells would succeed him as head coach.

After this dismal first season, Parcells made a finally healthy Simms the starter again for 1984 and replaced half the roster. The team's record improved to 9–7 and 10–6 over the next two years, and earned them their first back-to-back playoff appearances since 1961–1963. In 1986, he led the Giants to the first of two Super Bowls. In the 1986 season, the Giants compiled a franchise-best 14–2 record and the first of three division titles. Parcells, whose stifling 3–4 defense (known as the Big Blue Wrecking Crew) led by Lawrence Taylor, Carl Banks, Harry Carson, and Leonard Marshall, and an offense under the direction of Phil Simms, knocked off the San Francisco 49ers 49–3, and the Washington Redskins 17–0, in the playoffs before routing the Denver Broncos 39–20 in Super Bowl XXI. Parcells is credited as the first coach to be doused with Gatorade at the end of a Super Bowl, which led to a Super Bowl tradition.

Parcells led the Giants to a second Super Bowl in 1990. The Giants began the 1990 season 10–0, but lost Phil Simms to injury late in the season and finished 13–3. Playing with a back-up quarterback in Jeff Hostetler and a 33-year-old veteran running back in Ottis Anderson, the Giants convincingly defeated the Chicago Bears in the divisional playoff, 31–3. They followed that up with a dramatic, come-from-behind fashion over San Francisco, 15–13, in the NFC Championship game Super Bowl XXV proved equally exciting as the Giants used tough defense and a ball-control and power-running Erhardt – Perkins style offense to stop the Buffalo Bills, 20–19. Parcells retired from football after Super Bowl XXV due to health problems.

During his coaching tenure, the Giants secured three division titles (1986, 1989, 1990), had only two losing seasons (the Giants went 6–9 during the strike year of 1987), and tallied an 8–3 playoff record. Parcells, along with former Giants head coach Tom Coughlin, (our own Tom Coughlin, who he hired into the franchise) both made the NFL playoffs five times as Giants head coach, and the two Super Bowl titles they each won with the Giants occurred in their fourth and eighth seasons with the franchise, respectively.
 
Peyton Manning wishes Belichick was a bad HC. He would have a dozen titles.
The verb you use is past tense. It is absolutely true that Belichick was, bak then when he was much younger than he is now, a very good and at times. great HC.

But that was canon be transferred to an is just because a once great HC is now 73. No coach is at 73 as good as he was even at 63. Most over that kind of later life 10 year span decline more than a good deal.

73 year old Bleichick is well lover the hill with no realistic possibility of going back.
 
I don’t think you remember that 01 team and how risky it was to stick w brady over a guy they just signed the largest contract in nfl history with. But sure easy decision

That team was all bb. The d, the tone, the culture change. He inherited a salary cap calamity.

Not sure I’d want current day bags of bones Lombardi or the dementia Landry of 1987. Talking peak bb. He’s the best to ever do it. I can’t believe you guys think Parcells is a comp.
The only comps for bb are Paul brown, Walsh, et al.

Belichick is a lifetime loser without Tom Brady. Nothing will ever change that.
 
I'm not sure you are as familiar with Bill Parcells and the job he did with the Giants...

During his coaching tenure, the Giants secured three division titles (1986, 1989, 1990), had only two losing seasons (the Giants went 6–9 during the strike year of 1987), and tallied an 8–3 playoff record.

I always enjoyed Parcells' post game press conferences, but a similar argument that Belichick only won with Tom Brady can be applied to Parcells w/o Belichick. Just saying...

Bill Parcells had a losing record without Bill Belichick, going 58-68 in eight seasons as a head coach without him and a 1-4 playoff record versus a 10-4 playoff record when they worked together.

In 12 seasons with Belichick with the Giants, Patriots, and Jets, Parcells' teams went 117-73-1 (.615 winning percentage), won two Super Bowls, and appeared in a third.

All of which strengthens Belichick's overall resume of coaching accomplishments.
 
I always enjoyed Parcells' post game press conferences, but a similar argument that Belichick only won with Tom Brady can be applied to Parcells w/o Belichick. Just saying...

Bill Parcells had a losing record without Bill Belichick, going 58-68 in eight seasons as a head coach without him and a 1-4 playoff record versus a 10-4 playoff record when they worked together.

In 12 seasons with Belichick with the Giants, Patriots, and Jets, Parcells' teams went 117-73-1 (.615 winning percentage), won two Super Bowls, and appeared in a third.

All of which strengthens Belichick's overall resume of coaching accomplishments.
That’s fair, and I’m not saying I don’t like BB or his contributions, They were definitely better together. But to ignore Parcells’ contributions, or say the personality of those teams wasn’t his, or “I don’t know how he can even be in the conversation” is criminal. The list of coaches with multiple SB wins in 1991 when Parcells won his second is Shula (2) Landry (2) Knoll (4) Gibbs (2) and Walsh (3). All HOFers
 

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