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Message: [QUOTE="IthacaMatt, post: 4964103, member: 405"] In his defense, when motivated he was a good defensive rebounder. And he could make a midrange turnaround jump shot. He had timing to make weakside blocked shots, like a Wes Johnson. But he just didn't understand how to play basketball. It's that simple. He still doesn't understand that effort is an "all the time" thing. Same with Judah. I feel like at least JJ tries, even if you think he is bad on defense, too. [/QUOTE]