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Message: [QUOTE="Crusty, post: 3641817, member: 2265"] Here are a few takes on P5 jobs. Puts things in perspective. [URL='https://athlonsports.com/college-football/ranking-all-130-college-football-coaching-jobs-2019']Athlon Sports Ranks 130 CFB HC jobs[/URL] Here is what Athlon Sports said about SU: "58. Syracuse A national power in the 1950s and ’60s and a consistent top-20 program in the ’80s and ’90s, Syracuse has tumbled down the college football food chain since the turn of the century. It obviously can be done — Dino Babers won 10 games last season — but the Orange have too many built-in disadvantages when compared to many other programs in the league." [URL='https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/Ranking-Top-25-jobs-in-college-football-Alabama-Crimson-Tide-LSU-Florida-Texas-Oklahoma-Georgia-USC-148917540/']Ranking college football's 25 best jobs[/URL] Interesting article (June 9. 2020) [URL='https://www.espn.com/college-football/insider/story/_/id/29236459/alabama-texas-usc-most-appealing']College football coaching job tiers: Alabama, Texas, USC among most appealing[/URL] Not counting the jerks at ND, the ACC has [B]1[/B] Tier 1; [B]1[/B] Tier 2, [B]3[/B] Tier 3; [B]5[/B] Tier 4 and [B]4[/B] Tier 5. (Where are we? Tier 5.) The description of Tier 5 fits us to a T. Sadly however, nowhere are academics mentioned. With the indoor practive facility, dome renovations and the $35 million gift from John Lally (thanks John - you also [USER=412]cto[/USER]) it is reasonalbe to expect us to be able to move up a notch to Tier 4. I have to say that there are a great many G5 jobs more appealing that ours. Houston, UCF, Cincinnati, SMU (yeah SMU), maybe Coastal Carolina and App State. Also, the service academies, if that is your flavor. For all those intent on changing coaches every 5 years this should be a cautionary tale. Our job is one of least sought after jobs in P5 (and beyond). Virtually everyone holds Cutliffe in high regard. He deals with the same restictions and we do. In his 13-years as HC of Duke he has only had only 5 winning seasons and complied a 74-87 (460) record made 6 bowls and won 3. He had losing seasons in his first 5. In his 6 seasons at Mississippt State he went 44-29 (602) was 25-23 vs SEC opponnets and made 4 bowls. (he coached only 1 game in 1998 so I ignored that bowl). Point is the same guy who won in the SEC loses in the ACC. Did he forget how to couch? To recruit? Resources matter. The coaching ranks are littered with genius head coaches that failed miserably when they moved to more difficult or competitive programs. Our best move - our only move - is to get behind DIno like Duke stands with Cutliffe. Doesn't mean we can't complain and doesn't mean we can't vent, but it does mean that our head coaches need to be marked on a curve until we have the resources to attract recruiting classes that are not at the bottom of the ACC EVERY year. [/QUOTE]

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