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Message: [QUOTE="orangehomer, post: 1837720, member: 151"] disagree, notre dame will have to play ball eventually. I think they know it already and these deals are just to appease the old timers that are worried about independence, in a time where it makes no sense. there is no reason to take notre dame off the table as a full member, when if they do decided to join you could take virtually anyone as the 16th. especially not to add just cinci and Yukon. another thing, is that I keep reading on the Yukon board about how they deliver the NYC market. they are in Connecticut. I don't care about weird nuances about the tv ratings. they do not move the needle in NYC. no one in NYC gives a flying about Yukon football. you people need to stop it. then again, maybe the big12 is dumb enough to believe your BS. [/QUOTE]