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Blackout Looms of ESPN on YouTubeTV

JRHEETER said:
Well to be fair, as soon as they get ESPN back I will go back almost instantly.

I am pretty sure Google is aware that they have built a great streaming platform for cable TV and they have the $$$ to deal with short term losses knowing most will come back.
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Disney has already had similar protracted negotiations with Charter and DirectTV. I'm guessing Spectrum will be next.

The difference here is that Google has exponentially more resources to survive the blackout and retain customers - as evidence by the $20 roll-out to subscribers that did not pause or cancel their subs. On the other hand, Disney is losing a reported 30 million/week during the blackout. Additional pressure coming to bear with Disney's projected earnings report due out today.

It seems likely Google/YTTV will continue to hold out for an equal or better deal than Charter and DirectTV subscribers are getting, or a clause to reduce rates as subscriber numbers increase going forward. That will likely drive up the subscriber numbers even faster for a UI platform that many believe is already the best. In the meantime, the first $20 credit is helping to finance options to temporarily replace ESPN access.
 
007 said:
Disney has already had similar protracted negotiations with Charter and DirectTV. I'm guessing Spectrum will be next.

The difference here is that Google has exponentially more resources to survive the blackout and retain customers - as evidence by the $20 roll-out to subscribers that did not pause or cancel their subs. On the other hand, Disney is losing a reported 30 million/week during the blackout. Additional pressure coming to bear with Disney's projected earnings report due out today.

It seems likely Google/YTTV will continue to hold out for an equal or better deal than Charter and DirectTV subscribers are getting, or a clause to reduce rates as subscriber numbers increase going forward. That will likely drive up the subscriber numbers even faster for a UI platform that many believe is already the best. In the meantime, the first $20 credit is helping to finance options to temporarily replace ESPN access.
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Charter is Spectrum & they already had their dispute and renewal. One report (posted previously) said Disney has agreed to give YTTV the same rate for ESPN as they give to Charter & Comcast. Unclear if that's now or when their subscriber numbers are the same. There's also a report that the dispute is now over the how much to pay for the non-ESPN, non-ABC channels & whether YTTV should get the same rate for those as Charter and Comcast. Another report disputes both reports and says there's been no agreement on anything. So who knows.
 
I have claimed the $20 rebate and just looked and was offered the $10 off a month for 6 months deal. so far im way ahead having only payed the $49 for directv and will cancel it before the month ends.
 
FloridaCuse said:
CNBC: "Sides moved significantly closer to making a deal with a lot of progress made in the past 24 hours."

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Good info and explains YTTV/Google's side better than any article I have read. Disney's side is easy enough, they are a producer and want to maximize revenue and profits. I don't blame either side's motive, I blame both sides for their unwillingness to to come to an agreement.
 
I can't imagine there will be a deal without subscribers getting ESPN Unlimited after ESPN touted it would be available to everyone with ESPN.

awfulannouncing.com

YouTube TV reportedly wants ESPN Unlimited as part of new carriage deal

One sticking point in negotiations between Disney and Google is YouTube TV hoping to get ESPN Unlimited as part of its offering.
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Another comprehensive article describing the negotiations. Long nights, failure to agree, more uncertainty. This sounds like there are fundamental disagreements on business philosophy and strategy. How to handle ESPN Unlimited is the current roadblock. Sounds like Disney wants YTTV's data & Google is proprietary and refuses. I'm starting to wonder how much YTTV is doing strategic planning along the lines of dropping ESPN, reducing its price, and letting subscribers who want it subscribe to ESPN Unlimited separately.

cordcuttersnews.com

YouTube TV and Disney Negotiations Went Late Into The Night Last Night & A New Issue Is Now The Main Focus | Cord Cutters News

YouTube TV and The Walt Disney Company reportedly engaged in marathon negotiations that stretched deep into the night on November 12, 2025, only to end without a resolution. The talks, aimed at renewing a carriage agreement set to expire imminently, broke down over fundamental disagreements...
cordcuttersnews.com cordcuttersnews.com
 
FloridaCuse said:
Another comprehensive article describing the negotiations. Long nights, failure to agree, more uncertainty. This sounds like there are fundamental disagreements on business philosophy and strategy. How to handle ESPN Unlimited is the current roadblock. Sounds like Disney wants YTTV's data & Google is proprietary and refuses. I'm starting to wonder how much YTTV is doing strategic planning along the lines of dropping ESPN, reducing its price, and letting subscribers who want it subscribe to ESPN Unlimited separately.

cordcuttersnews.com

YouTube TV and Disney Negotiations Went Late Into The Night Last Night & A New Issue Is Now The Main Focus | Cord Cutters News

YouTube TV and The Walt Disney Company reportedly engaged in marathon negotiations that stretched deep into the night on November 12, 2025, only to end without a resolution. The talks, aimed at renewing a carriage agreement set to expire imminently, broke down over fundamental disagreements...
cordcuttersnews.com cordcuttersnews.com
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This is making more sense. YTTV wants the ESPN resolution to include everything. ESPN has historically simply moved things where they want, effectively changing the deals on the fly on their own volition. YTTV/Google wants to be able to host everything, some may be at an additional charge or at a better price.

ESPN/Disney appears to want a better share of the revenue and access to the data. There exists a real issue with revealing too much data as Disney is a direct competitor, now (Hulu). Disney also wants the full ESPN slate in the basic package to generate the most revenue (as would we all if we were Disney).
 
HtownOrange said:
Who on here watches the daily talk shows on ESPN? There are some good points that favor YTTV/Google.
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I normally watch PTI as I've watched it from the start since I read Kornheiser's & Wilbon's columns in the Washington Post (Tony's Sunday Style Section nonsports columns were the best). But I've gone through periods when I haven't. I hardly ever watch SportsCenter unless I'm looking for SU highlights.
 
if you only watch games on espn you still could be watching 20-30-40 hrs a week. I doubt any other channel even comes close to that.
 

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