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Should be more then a few articles written about this interview. Follow on @stephencvengros

Some quotes that stood out:

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Jim Boeheim on paying college players: "That's the most idiotic thing I've heard."


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Boeheim; "When fans walk in to 35,000 fans in the Dome with Duke, they'll ask 'Georgetown? Who are they?'"
 
I took the second quote to mean he reads this board, and enjoys Marsh and his signature line and decided to alter it for his own use. In short, " Georgetown."
Broheim avatar. Beautiful!
 
I agree with him about his view on college players getting paid - with one strong exception. He mocks Chris Webber, but I find it appalling that a college coach can earn big money with shoe contracts, but players (who actually model them; all models deserve at least a fee) can't? And when we get into jerseys with actual names on them, we're getting into intellectual property issues here.

Boeheim's point that Webber eventually earned $100,00,000 is irrelevant. There's a higher principle here. If someone buys a jersey on Marshall St. with anybody's name on it, that person (named on the jersey) deserves at least a cut. Yeah, the monies will never totally get collected (the Beatles actually collected zero dollars on $50,000,000 of merchandising prior to 1970). But can someone articulate why a head coach should be able to collect thousands on shoe contracts, while his players shouldn't see a dime?
 
I agree with him about his view on college players getting paid - with one strong exception. He mocks Chris Webber, but I find it appalling that a college coach can earn big money with shoe contracts, but players (who actually model them; all models deserve at least a fee) can't? And when we get into jerseys with actual names on them, we're getting into intellectual property issues here.

Boeheim's point that Webber eventually earned $100,00,000 is irrelevant. There's a higher principle here. If someone buys a jersey on Marshall St. with anybody's name on it, that person (named on the jersey) deserves at least a cut. Yeah, the monies will never totally get collected (the Beatles actually collected zero dollars on $50,000,000 of merchandising prior to 1970). But can someone articulate why a head coach should be able to collect thousands on shoe contracts, while his players shouldn't see a dime?
Because a coach is a professional and his players are amateurs.
 
He shouldn't get into the paying players debate if those are his reasons why it's a bad idea. You can't talk about it being a billion-dollar business without realizing that the "employees" who make the business run should be allowed to seek compensation in some capacity beyond tuition.

Let's not act like SU Athletics isn't trying to make money- just because DG spends it all so there is no profit, doesn't mean that student-athletes aren't being used.
 
Boeheim's point that Webber eventually earned $100,00,000 is irrelevant. There's a higher principle here. If someone buys a jersey on Marshall St. with anybody's name on it, that person (named on the jersey) deserves at least a cut.

Especially because A) there are guys who don't eventually make $100 million, and B) the money you may or may not make in the future doesn't help put food on your table, or buy you clothes, or whatever, when you're in college.
 
Especially because A) there are guys who don't eventually make $100 million, and B) the money you may or may not make in the future doesn't help put food on your table, or buy you clothes, or whatever, when you're in college.
You appreciate that they don't have to play basketball, right -- that they can struggle to eat and play like college kids on work study?
 
You appreciate that they don't have to play basketball, right -- that they can struggle to eat and play like college kids on work study?

Yeah I get that. Not sure they should have to give up a possible career for a little more spending money when they are on a team that is generating tons of money for the school. But yes.

For whatever it's worth, I think we're headed, slowly, to a time when college athletes will be getting more compensation than they do currently. Just my opinion.
 
Yeah I get that. Not sure they should have to give up a possible career for a little more spending money when they are on a team that is generating tons of money for the school. But yes.

For whatever it's worth, I think we're headed, slowly, to a time when college athletes will be getting more compensation than they do currently. Just my opinion.
This issue doesn't work me up that much -- go ahead and give them $50 a week for all I care. But you have to give it to every member of the field hockey team too.

On the jersey question in particular, though -- Darren Rovell did the math and the amount a student would see (from sales of his jersey) is pennies on the dollar. For a $40 shirt, SU sees about $2 -- and Nike sees the rest.
 
On the jersey question in particular, though -- Darren Rovell did the math and the amount a student would see (from sales of his jersey) is pennies on the dollar. For a $40 shirt, SU sees about $2 -- and Nike sees the rest.

Jesus, is that really true? Unbelievable.
 
Jesus, is that really true? Unbelievable.
From a 2010 article (using AJ Green of Georgia as an example): http://www.cnbc.com/id/39099125. (In my previous post I failed to include that the actual seller gets a large amount -- and Nike most of the rest.)

An excerpt:

Let's take you through the math.

Let's say the Georgia bookstore sells the jerseys — they have 22 different versions of No. 8 — for an average of $60.

They make $30 by selling it at that price. The licensee, Nike, takes the rest and distributes it to who make the jersey and gives 10 percent of that money to the schools.

So on a $60 A.J. Green jersey, Georgia only makes $3.

Now let's say the NCAA allows the player to take part in these sales, as they should. They allow the Nikes of the world to put the names on the back. And since that would likely result in more sales, let's say the licensee throws an additional five percent royalty to the school.

So now the school has a 15 percent royalty or $4.50. They split evenly with the player, so the player gets $2.25 per jersey.

So how many A.J. Green jerseys would sell? One insider who is in the business said, aside from Tim Tebow, the biggest players sell about 1,500 jerseys. Green doesn't fall into the category. Another insider, who sells college jerseys, said Georgia could expect to sell about 300 No. 8 jerseys this year.

How much would that leave A.J Green with? $675 — or $325 less than what he got for selling his Independence Bowl jersey.
 
My takeaway is JB doesn't want to pay the athletes not because they don't draw revenue, but because if you pay Basketball and Football players then you will have to pay all athletes. I get this logic, but a small stipend which I don't think JB was against from the article would be something he is against. Or instead of giving the kid 6,000 dollars in one check the Registrar or whomever cuts those checks should talk with the kids about cutting them into smaller monthly amounts so kids don't waste all the money at once and live like their is no tomorrow with that money.

Also, I would give the kids a portion of their jerseys sales. If someone buys a Syracuse #5 jersey this year they are buying a C.J. Fair jersey or they are busting out their old Josh Pace jersey. I have Syracuse #39, #1 football jerseys I know they are Walter Reyes and Damian Rhodes and #1 and #15 basketball jerseys knowing they are Hakim Warrick and Melo Anthony. Give those kids a portion of those sales.
 
Do the schools have any affiliation at all with the bookstores?
 

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