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There are currently 66 bowl-eligible teams.

There are 35 bowls.

That adds up to 70 bowl teams.

That leaves four remainig bowl spots (as we all know, of course, some of the currently eligible 66 teams won't get invites).

Also note: 15 teams are one win away from being bowl eligible.

Discuss.
 
There are currently 66 bowl-eligible teams.

There are 35 bowls.

That adds up to 70 bowl teams.

That leaves four remainig bowl spots (as we all know, of course, some of the currently eligible 66 teams won't get invites).

Also note: 15 teams are one win away from being bowl eligible.

Discuss.

I was about to do a post on that..actualy Miami is turning down one...and NCState needs to win 7 games (2 FCS opponents)

So I think we are at 65.

Bottomline is has become evident to me that we probably need to win 7 games or hope USF, UCon and Pitt all end at 5 wins
 
See the which crappy Bowl thread. I broke down where possible opening will be for us. It is slim pickings. It is possible we go 6-6 and not make a Bowl.
 
I think if we become bowl eligible, then we definitely go to a bowl somewhere. That is a big IF though.
 
I was about to do a post on that..actualy Miami is turning down one...and NCState needs to win 7 games (2 FCS opponents)

So I think we are at 65.

Bottomline is has become evident to me that we probably need to win 7 games or hope USF, UCon and Pitt all end at 5 wins

Here is what these teams have left...

USF: home vs UL and WVU
UCONN: home vs Rutgers, @ Cinci
SU: home vs Cinci, @ Pitt
Pitt: @WVU, home vs SU

Seems like our game vs Pitt, despite what we do against Cinci will be big... I can see USF losing both, although they have them at home. UCONN should go 0-2, with Pitt losing at WVU and setting up a big one against us.

I agree getting to 7 for us is probably a must, although the numbers may work out because of the match-ups. Better be safe and win them both.
 
Getting to 6 will be harder than getting in a bowl. I'm pretty confident if we get 6 we will be playing a 13th game.
 
Also, Eastern Michigan and Air Force have 6 wins, but each played 2 FCS teams.
 
Also, Eastern Michigan and Air Force have 6 wins, but each played 2 FCS teams.

So that brings it back to 63 teams...A given: Syracuse at 6-6 will get selected over any 6-6 non AQ team from what I see is available out there. CUSA should fill their five bowl slots. The winner of ECU/Marshall will get to 6-6. If Houston gets a BCS bid then the New Orleans Bowl might need someone.
 
Good article listing the bowl teams who can make it still

He is off as Air Force played 2 FCS schools so it is 66 in counting the two winners between 5 win teams. EDIT: I corrected his ariticle for our use.

http://blogs.wvgazette.com/dougsmock/2011/11/21/national-bowl-picture-67-in-15-alive/
National bowl picture: 67 66 in, 15 16 alive

November 21, 2011 by Doug Smock

Here, I count Saturday’s East Carolina/Marshall knockout winner as bowl-eligible. 5-5 Syracuse and 5-5 Pitt have 2 games left, one against each other on Dec. 3, so I am counting one there. (Pitt and Syracuse both may qualify, though)
Looking at schedules, I don’t see a shortage of bowl-eligible teams. My gut hunch is 72 or 73 for 70 spots.
I will not consider the possibility of Marshall going 6-7, and may not include that in any story this week. Southern Miss will spank Memphis sill, and take the East Division.
Technically, there are 16 teams still alive, but the MU/ECU loser will be eliminated so I am listing the total at 15.
I’m also tallying those who have qualified with 6 wins. That won’t come into play in Conference USA and other leagues, but somebody somewhere will be left out in the at-large jockeying. Eastern Michigan and North Carolina State have 6 wins, but played 2 Cheesecake Subdivison teams.
There are 26 teams eligible with 6 wins, a number which may shrink. Again, I include the MU/ECU winner.
In case you want to wade through this:
ACC (8 in, 4 with 6 wins, 1 alive)
In: Clemson, Fla State, Va Tech, Virginia, Ga Tech.
In with 6: North Carolina, Miami, WF
Alive: NC State at 6-5 (played 2 FCS, plays Maryland)
Big East (5 will be in, 1 with 6 wins, 4 alive)
In: Cincy, Rutgers, WVU
In with 6: Louisville
Alive: Pitt 5-5, UConn 4-6, USF 5-5, Syracuse 5-5 (Pitt and/or Syracuse will be in)
Pitt plays WVU, Cuse
UConn plays Rutgers, Cincy
USF plays Louisville, WVU
Syracuse plays Cincy, Pitt
Big 12 (8 in, 4 with 6, 1 alive) In: Ok St, Okla, K State, Baylor
In with 6: Texas, Iowa St, TxA&M, Mizzou
Alive: Tx Tech 5-6 (plays Baylor)
Big 10 (9 in, 3 with 6, 1 alive)
In: Mich St, Mich, Nebraska, Penn St., Wisconsin, Iowa
In with 6: Ohio St., Illinois, NW
Alive: Purdue 5-6 (plays Indiana)
C-USA (5 will be in, 2 will have 6, 1 more alive)
In: Southern Miss, Houston, Tulsa
In with 6: SMU, ECU/Marshall winner
Alive: UTEP 5-6, Marshall 5-6, ECU 5-6
UTEP plays UCF
ECU plays Marshall
MAC (6 in, 3 with 6, 2 alive)
In: Ohio, NIU, Toledo, TempleIn with 6: EMU, Ball St, WMU
Alive: EMU (6-5, played 2 FCS, plays NIU), Kent St 5-6 (plays Temple)
MWC (5 in, 1 with 6, 1 alive)
In: TCU, Boise, Wyoming
In with 6: San Diego St,
Alive: Air Force (6 wins but played two FCS teams, plays at Colo St.)
Pac-12 (7 in, 4 with 6, 0 alive)
In: Oregon, Stanford, Utah
In with 6: Wash, Cali, Az St, UCLA
Ineligible: USC
Alive: No more teams
SEC (7 in, 1 with 6, 3 alive)
In: Georgia, SC, LSU, Bama, Ark, Auburn
In with 6: Florida
Alive: Vandy 5-6, Miss St 5-6, Tenn 5-6
Vandy plays Wake Forest
Miss St plays Ole Miss
Tennessee plays Kentucky
Sun Belt: (4 in, 1 with 6, 0 alive)
In: Ark St (Mobile), UL-L, FIU
In with 6: Wky
Alive: No more teams
WAC (2 in, 1 with 6, 2 alive)
In: La Tech
In with 6: Nevada
Alive: Hawaii* (5-6), Utah State (5-5)* — plays 13 games, must win 7
Hawaii plays Tulane, BYU
Utah St plays Nevada, NM State
Independents (2 in, 0 alive)
In: BYU (Fort Worth), Notre Dame
Alive: no more
 
Last year there were 72 bowl eligible teams last eyar. Temple and Western Michigan got left out. The interesting question is: if we didn't make it to a Big East bowl, will our status as a member of a BCS AQ conference give us any advantage over the teams from "lesser" conferences?
 
SU at 6 wins finds a bowl easily. Not even a debate. These Bowls don't care if you are a good team or not, just have 6 wins essentially. They care about TV draw, name recognition...etc. And with the garbage/crap bowls that we would be looking at as options... SU is the cream of the crop.
 
Also we are essentially at 65 in right now (since the author counts Miami as in when they said they are not going to a bowl game)

To answer SWC...the non AQ schools looked to be taken care of this year. Where SU has an edge is if they are 6-6 they should get selected over any non AQ 6-6 school for an at large bowl bid out there. Cuse's worst nightmare is if a bunch of BE schools get in with 6 wins. I don't see the BE pushing Cuse over a USF or UConn.
 
SU at 6 wins finds a bowl easily. Not even a debate. These Bowls don't care if you are a good team or not, just have 6 wins essentially. They care about TV draw, name recognition...etc. And with the garbage/crap bowls that we would be looking at as options... SU is the cream of the crop.

Even Bowl has a tie in. Sure SU would be a bigger draw than a school like EMU. But if the Bowl has a tie in, they won't break that for us. So SU needs some of the tie ins to not be Bowl eligible.
 
Even Bowl has a tie in. Sure SU would be a bigger draw than a school like EMU. But if the Bowl has a tie in, they won't break that for us. So SU needs some of the tie ins to not be Bowl eligible.

Agreed...I think only 1 or 2 are possible right now. New Orleans and I think San Francisco...I'll do some more research.

Update
http://www.philsteele.com/bowls/11-12/bowlprojections.html

Phil Steele usually has the best thought out Bowl Game Projections...from what I can tell the following Bowls all could need an at large team if certain things play out: New Orleans (assuming Houston gets a BCS Bowl and UTEP loses), New Mexico, Boise Potato Bowl, Dallas Ticket Bowl, San Fran Kraft Bowl, Washington DC Military Bowl (have to root for USAFA to lose this weekend)
 
Agreed...I think only 1 or 2 are possible right now. New Orleans and I think San Francisco...I'll do some more research.

Update
http://www.philsteele.com/bowls/11-12/bowlprojections.html

Phil Steele usually has the best thought out Bowl Game Projections...from what I can tell the following Bowls all could need an at large team if certain things play out: New Orleans (assuming Houston gets a BCS Bowl and UTEP loses), New Mexico, Boise Potato Bowl, Dallas Ticket Bowl, San Fran Kraft Bowl, Washington DC Military Bowl (have to root for USAFA to lose this weekend)

While slim chances, we can still get Pinstripe or Compass.
 
Agreed...I think only 1 or 2 are possible right now. New Orleans and I think San Francisco...I'll do some more research.

Update
http://www.philsteele.com/bowls/11-12/bowlprojections.html

Phil Steele usually has the best thought out Bowl Game Projections...from what I can tell the following Bowls all could need an at large team if certain things play out: New Orleans (assuming Houston gets a BCS Bowl and UTEP loses), New Mexico, Boise Potato Bowl, Dallas Ticket Bowl, San Fran Kraft Bowl, Washington DC Military Bowl (have to root for USAFA to lose this weekend)
What's funny is, even though I refuse to watch the team on TV (Jim Gaffigan voice - Is this guy bringing that up again?) if we went to Boise I would strongly consider making the trek.
 
Here is what these teams have left...

USF: home vs UL and WVU
UCONN: home vs Rutgers, @ Cinci
SU: home vs Cinci, @ Pitt
Pitt: @WVU, home vs SU

It's still possible for 3 of these 4 teams to lose out and end up at 5 wins.
 
Even Bowl has a tie in. Sure SU would be a bigger draw than a school like EMU. But if the Bowl has a tie in, they won't break that for us. So SU needs some of the tie ins to not be Bowl eligible.

Which will happen. That's what we are talking about. And SU with 6 can get a Big East tie-in spot as well ya know we are still part of the conference.
 
Which will happen. That's what we are talking about. And SU with 6 can get a Big East tie-in spot as well ya know we are still part of the conference.

The BE has 5 Bowl tie ins and could have 8 Bowl eligible teams. So as many as 3 teams will get left out of BE Bowls. In addition I believe there still is a rule in the BE that you cannot jump a team that is 2 Ws ahead of you in conference play. So if SU goes 2-5 this year then there is no way we can get a BE Bowl.
 
USF really needs to be UL, if they play without Daniels and lose , then if WV beats pitt they have alot to play for vs USF but wont UL have clinched by then? WV can really help by sweeping pitt/usf.

do we root for rutgers over uconn?
 
Good News...UTEP losing big to UCF. This should open up a bowl spot assuming Houston wins next week.

Ball State lost today so they finish 6-6...they won't take an outside bowl from us at 7-5.

Kent State lost today to finish 5-7.

We need to root against USAFA vs Colo St and NCState vs Maryland
Also, three SEC teams at 5-6..good to see 2 of them lose.
 
also UCLA should lose to USC to go to 6-6. then they will have to play stanford in the pac 12 title and probably finish 6-7 and out of a bowl game? or is there some rule allowing them in?
 
Pitt and USF are now 5-6. USF finishes up with WV next week.

UConn is 4-6 with games against Rutgers and Cinci.
 

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