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Message: [QUOTE="HtownOrange, post: 724052, member: 622"] You lost all credibility several times. Sandusky committed crimes. Paterno covered up the crimes. The PSU administration covered up the crimes. You allege we as Syracuse only want a competitive advantage over a rivalry. Sandusky is in jail. Others may be punished. Penn State is paying out large settlements. This proves you are wrong! If PSU was not liable in any way, nuisance value would be the only settlement offer. However, PSU is paying our far in excess of nuisance value and thus, whether liability is admitted in the final paperwork or not, they are paying for that liability. Any decent lawyer would explain that if PSU had the facts on their side, there would be nothing more than a nuisance settlement, if that! Your final allegation about SU fans is silly. Sure, we want to win, but equating a desire to win with a desire for justice is comparing apples to nuclear weapons, not even in the same realm of topics. Many of us do recall when the game was a rivalry, but JoePa cancelled the game. We fully understand that joining the B1G was a hindrance to annual games, but JoePa still refused to play for a very long time. So what? Water under the bridge. We should play periodically as we are in the same region. (By the way, I'm not one that wanted the death penalty, so you may want to lighten up a little As for the Sandusky issue, the mere fact that you defend JoePa and PSU shows that you have not been honest with yourself and that you personally still worship JoePa and PSU football. I have a good friend, a die hard PSU fan, who freely admits this was wrong, PSU should be penalized. He is sad because of it but he would never think to defend anyone who allowed child molestation to occur. As for the above report, this is the money quote, [B]"When I was asked by representatives of the Paterno family to conduct an independent review and assessment of the findings and conclusions in the SIC report, ..."[/B] Once again, you lost all credibility by presenting a self serving report as fact. The real facts are played out in courts and they happen to disagree with your "facts". [/QUOTE]

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