Buddy….

[Jake]

Teams are throwing size him and are getting really physical.

It’s harder for him to back down bigger kids and they are getting in his shot sight better.

Teams have figured out that you can’t effectively defend him with a guard all game long.

They’ve also finally figured out you have to defend Jimmy like a righty.

 

[jgeorge322]

This may be true but his stats werent terrible yesterday. He missed some wide open threes that could have won us the game.

 

[MikeSU02]

Teams are throwing size him and are getting really physical.

It’s harder for him to back down bigger kids and they are getting in his shot sight better.

Teams have figured out that you can’t effectively defend him with a guard all game long.

They’ve also finally figured out you have to defend Jimmy like a righty.

I don’t have numbers to back this up, but it appears he is going head down, hard dribble into the lane with his forearm leading for spacing more than last year or even earlier this year.

He can still get square and gets his shot off at good angles, but seems so so so much harder than before.

And to your point, that way of getting into the lane is much different than a backdown. It’s bully ball and when he’s got someone with strength, he’s running into a brick wall.

 

[CU44SE]

This may be true but his stats werent terrible yesterday. He missed some wide open threes that could have won us the game.

Jimmy shot 35% from the floor yesterday. Buddy shot 38% from the floor. Not to mention the lack of defense that does not show up on the stat line. They played 39 mins and 37 minutes respectively. Those numbers would be good 3 point fg% but they are their total shooting percentage. Taking 18 shots to only get 17 points is not good quality

 

[kcsu]

Neither one of them played well.

 

[jgeorge322]

Jimmy shot 35% from the floor yesterday. Buddy shot 38% from the floor. Not to mention the lack of defense that does not show up on the stat line. They played 39 mins and 37 minutes respectively. Those numbers would be good 3 point fg% but they are their total shooting percentage. Taking 18 shots to only get 17 points is not good quality

Jimmy missed a bunch of shots that he made against Nova. Not defending it but just saying, I don’t expect him to be shut down for the rest of the year.

Buddy missed some shots I think he can make as well. One or two more makes and he has a good efg %.

Not arguing we don’t need more from both but the OP was saying something else. Its not like buddy was 1-12.

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

This is why you have a bench and don't play guys 40 mins.

I can't believe the coach loaded up the schedule knowing how thin the roster was.

 

[TinyManInside]

IMO Buddy is working inside the arc too much. I think he's trying to showcase offensive versatility, but if he does get drafted and get into the league, no coach is going to ask him to do any of things he's trying to showcase.

I've always looked at his game as being generated from the outside-in. I think he needs to get back to focusing on the 3 pointer as a first option then build the mid-range game back off that. His 3-point shooting this year has been completely baffling to me.

The caveat to all of this is that historically his 3pt percentage is always worse for the first 10ish games before he gets into a rhythm and improves. Hopefully he picks it up back up soon.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

I don’t have numbers to back this up, but it appears he is going head down, hard dribble into the lane with his forearm leading for spacing more than last year or even earlier this year.

He can still get square and gets his shot off at good angles, but seems so so so much harder than before.

And to your point, that way of getting into the lane is much different than a backdown. It’s bully ball and when he’s got someone with strength, he’s running into a brick wall.

And more often that not, he also pulls out of those drives at the last second for a turnaround pull-up or fade-away instead of taking the contact and getting to the foul line. And because he's initiating, often with that arm leading as you said, he's not going to get calls for contact that isn't egregious.

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

Regardless of Buddy's draft stock hes close enough that he will get a chance to make the NBA via the D League like Oshae. Hit some shots and hold his own on D on a 10 day deal and he could stick around.

A team of guys whos best offensive weapon is the 3 point shot is not a good supporting cast for Buddy. If JB cared about his NBA prospects he doesn't let Kadary leave the program.

 

[Red Holzman]

Buddy's shooting stats vs Hoyas were "OK" -not as bad as recently.
Problem was Buddy missed some big shots important for SU to get the W -shots that he's expected to make, and needs to make.
Some have cited possible injury, but regardless "Buddy Buckets" MIA recently.
From 3, Buddy was 0-9 previous 2 games and is now 8-33 (24%) in last 5 games.
Some nights our sharpshooters all will be on and SU may get a big win, but at this point the plan to ride great 3 point shooting hasn't worked well.

 

[CardiacCuse]

This is why you have a bench and don't play guys 40 mins.

I can't believe the coach loaded up the schedule knowing how thin the roster was.

he thought this team was better than it is. by a lot.

 

[justgold315]

Another issue is lack of awareness by the brothers. When they ISO, post, backdown, etc. and draw double team, they miss other open teammates multiple times. Buddy has been good in other games getting assists. Jimmy missed Jesse wide open at least 3 times when drawing Jesse's defender. Nobody on this team should be shooting 15 times unless red hot. The other big issue is if Cole or Jimmy miss a 3, there is no one left to rebound, it is an automatic turnover, and the other team is likely going to exploit our horrible transition defense.

 

[007]

IMO Buddy is working inside the arc too much. I think he's trying to showcase offensive versatility, but if he does get drafted and get into the league, no coach is going to ask him to do any of things he's trying to showcase.

I've always looked at his game as being generated from the outside-in. I think he needs to get back to focusing on the 3 pointer as a first option then build the mid-range game back off that. His 3-point shooting this year has been completely baffling to me.

The caveat to all of this is that historically his 3pt percentage is always worse for the first 10ish games before he gets into a rhythm and improves. Hopefully he picks it up back up soon.

Good points TinyManInside. It looks like Bubby (or somebody else) is trying to showcase that he can create his own shot inside AND outside the arc without having to depend on set plays to get open. He is clearly the focus of the defense, teams are leaning on him physically with aggressive defenders, and both compound the issue. JB/Buddy now need to adapt to that game plan from the defense.

I would like to see Buddy running more sets off screens with a return to his quick trigger catch, turn and shoot. It's what he does best IMO.

 

[Sherman20]

Teams are throwing size him and are getting really physical.

It’s harder for him to back down bigger kids and they are getting in his shot sight better.

Teams have figured out that you can’t effectively defend him with a guard all game long.

They’ve also finally figured out you have to defend Jimmy like a righty.

That’s why you set screens and run offensive plays for the kid. But apparently JB is against that. I’m so sick of his “keep it simple” approach to everything. He isn’t helping the shooters to actually get some open looks by running plays and screening actions. He just wants to run iso ball all game long like we have Tyus Battle. We ran a pin down screen in the second half and Buddy actually got an open look from the top of the key. He missed, but why didn’t we see more of that? We did well the later part of last season by running some actual offense.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

That’s why you set screens and run offensive plays for the kid. But apparently JB is against that. I’m so sick of his “keep it simple” approach to everything. He isn’t helping the shooters to actually get some open looks by running plays. He just wants to run iso ball all game long. We ran a pin down screen in the second half and Buddy actually got an open look from the top of the key. He missed but why didn’t we see more of that?

If I were a betting man, I'd guess that JB would say our bigs don't do a good job of setting screens without picking up an offensive foul. Reality is that our guards don't do a good job of USING screens effectively. Buddy did that time you mention, and if he wasn't so off the mark lately, that would have been a bucket. We should ABSOLUTELY be doing the same for Cole, because he needs the help getting open.

 

[Cheriehoop]

This is why you have a bench and don't play guys 40 mins.

I can't believe the coach loaded up the schedule knowing how thin the roster was.

Did he know when those schedules were made?

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

Did he know when those schedules were made?

You are correct. Nova game was announced this time last year I believe. Gtown series has been in place for a while. Atlantis same thing. ACC-B1G challenge we have no control over nor do we pick the ACC December opponent. We didn't add Bonaventure or UB for a tough local test. I'm just used to a far easier early season schedule I guess.

 

[SUFan44]

Teams are throwing size him and are getting really physical.

It’s harder for him to back down bigger kids and they are getting in his shot sight better.

Teams have figured out that you can’t effectively defend him with a guard all game long.

They’ve also finally figured out you have to defend Jimmy like a righty.

So you’re saying Buddy is overrated?

Not 10 games. Not 10.

 

[hoopsupstate]

I’ve been amazed how Golden State sets up Steph Curry to get him shots. Screens are constantly being set all over the floor. Buddy is slow getting to spots and barely runs on the break or getting back on defense. He plays lazy. He needs someone to light a fire in him.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

he thought this team was better than it is. by a lot.

Could he not see the combined vertical leaps of the starting 5 was not equal to that of Stevie Thompson?

 

[STEVEHOLT]

I’ve been amazed how Golden State sets up Steph Curry to get him shots. Screens are constantly being set all over the floor. Buddy is slow getting to spots and barely runs on the break or getting back on defense. He plays lazy. He needs someone to light a fire in him.

We are terrible at setting screens .. awful at it . Jessie is getting a bit better but he leaves too early on the roll.

Craig forth screen setting videos should be Daily watch assignment for these guys

 

[SUFan44]

We are terrible at setting screens .. awful at it . Jessie is getting a bit better but he leaves too early on the roll.

Craig forth screen setting videos should be Daily watch assignment for these guys

Setting screens is something you teach. Forth came in understanding how to do it already.

Villanova practices these fundamental things. It is very apparent that we do not. When you stop getting the talent, these things matter more than ever.

 

[XC Cuse]

This seems like an early season trend for Buddy. In the non ACC schedule Buddy struggled as well, then by ACC play he started to heat up, then in the tournament, he was lights out. One can hope that will happen this year.

 

[sufandu]

So we don't set screens well. We don't rebound well. We have trouble getting to three point shooters. What is it that is worked on in practice? How much is it talent vs development?