Buddy retrospective

[Capt. Tuttle]

Has any SU player surpassed initial expectations more than Buddy? Rautins? Warrick? Moten?

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Douglas.

 

[Orangefizz]

Rony

All overachiever team
PG Sherm
SG Buddy
SF Sam
PF Hak
C Rony

 

[Irt4su]

Carmelo...ONE SHINING MOMENT

 

[BomberOrange]

Because of Rautins, I thought Buddy would be successful.

 

[rocfan44]

Let’s save the retrospectives for after the game.

 

[Ghost]

This was exactly what I expected.

 

[Jake]

I’ll throw somme other names out there….JBReafsnyder, JoshPace Elijah Hughes.

 

[All4SU]

I’ll throw somme other names out there….JBReafsnyder, JoshPace Elijah Hughes.

Mike Hopkins… Jim Boeheim…

 

[DoctahLexus]

Should wait until post-Duke game for this. Bad mojo.

 

[Cuse_NYC]

Arinze

 

[djcon57]

Has any SU player surpassed initial expectations more than Buddy? Rautins? Warrick? Moten?

Rautins for sure, imo.

 

[kcsu]

I’ll throw somme other names out there….JBReafsnyder, JoshPace Elijah Hughes.

Warrick, Dooms,

 

[OttoMets]

Rony

All overachiever team
PG Sherm
SG Buddy
SF Sam
PF Hak
C Rony

I have had my coffee, so that's no excuse...who are we talking about here?

 

[dollarbill44]

I have had my coffee, so that's no excuse...who are we talking about here?

 

[Forza Azzurri]

Has any SU player surpassed initial expectations more than Buddy? Rautins? Warrick? Moten?

Other SU players came in with no expectations.

Buddy had to overcome the initial mountain of negative expectations, ie. he is only on the team and getting minutes because of his last name.

Remember, the nepotism posts started after the second game of his freshman year (and continue, unabated, to this day).

So, yeah, I would say that he is at the top of the list.

 

[OttoMets]

Other SU players came in with no expectations.

Buddy had to overcome the initial mountain of negative expectations, ie. he is only on the team and getting minutes because of his last name.

Remember, the nepotism posts started after the second game of his freshman year (and continue, unabated, to this day).

So, yeah, I would say that he is at the top of the list.

If memory serves, Rautins was encumbered by all the same negativity. And he seemed pretty underdeveloped as a freshman on top of that.

To rise to captaincy of a #1 team and wind up drafted by the Knicks was a pretty amazing rise. If he's not alone at the top of the "overshooting expectations" list, he's got limited company.

 

[Forza Azzurri]

If memory serves, Rautins was encumbered by all the same negativity. And he seemed pretty underdeveloped as a freshman on top of that.

To rise to captaincy of a #1 team and wind up drafted by the Knicks was a pretty amazing rise. If he's not alone at the top of the "overshooting expectations" list, he's got limited company.

Yes, Rautins had to deal with that also but his PT came much more slowly (he did not start every game until senior year) and he was never the focal point the way Buddy is as he was surrounded by superior talent.

Andy never had to deal with the level of vitriol that has been directed Buddy's way.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

What about Jonny Flynn? Didn't most people think this skinny little kid was just a throw-in?

 

[OrangeXtreme]

What about Jonny Flynn? Didn't most people think this skinny little kid was just a throw-in?

I thought the opposite.

We took Harris to get Flynn.

 

[SU in Hershey]

Forgetting his pedigree for the sake of argument, I’d submit Danny Schayes…both at SU and for his sustained pro career.

 

[MikeSU02]

This is Warrick, easy, imo.

Kid ended up a consensus AA his senior year, was 2nd/3rd team before that (depending on publication), 2x first team BE, BE POY, has a chip (you could argue he was the second most important player).

Those are insane accolades. His teams went:
23-13 (on that broken Deshaun/Shump team)
30-5
23-8
27-7

It's Hak.

 

[Stevenson]

Joel Katz

 

[newmexicuse]

Moten needs to be on this list, he is probably co #1 with Sherman in my mind. Hak is also right there.

 

[sutomcat]

I thought the opposite.

We took Harris to get Flynn.

Great. Now Igor has taken possession of OrangeXtreme's body.

All hell has broken loose.

Is there a priest on the board?