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Message: [QUOTE="upperdeck, post: 4200684, member: 474"] so if you swing your arm with a closed fist meaning to actually hit him with like the inside of of your wrist and accidentally hit him with the fist does that make it a punch . because if he hits him with his fist on the side of the arm and not in the breadbasket no way he gets tossed out for that. imagine if hockey players got called out for all the times they haul off and hit people like this and in college hockey in many leagues they have the same no fighting/punching rules and it happens 2-300 times a game.. [/QUOTE]