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Message: [QUOTE="BuffOrange, post: 4928384, member: 1643"] He is definitely too careless on the fumbles. There is sooooo much more to the position that never ever gets talked about "cause turnovers". -Sack avoidance which he is elite at, the team is never behind the chains. Sacks are a QB stat and those are drive killers. -The Bills are 1st, 1st, 3rd and 1st in 3rd down % the last 4 years. That is insane. Hurts needs to not be in these QB discussions anymore until he stacks a couple seasons together. He's got 1 good year with an all-world everything around him. Stroud's int's are about as likely to skyrocket next year as Dak's were to plummet this year, if PFF's tally are any indication (and they are). [/QUOTE]