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Message: [QUOTE="Melancer46, post: 2982966, member: 1674"] I will probably expect between 6-8 wins every season until they become a great team so even 6 is kinda tough. I think they'll hit the over but I can understand why Vegas wouldn't think the team has improved significantly. A 5 win team in pythagorean wins and aside from Mitch Morse, none of the additions are really standout guys (even if I think they're sneaky good signings that fit great here). Schedule isn't exactly easy either; obviously playing the Dolphins twice is good but AFC North and NFC East should both be pretty strong divisions if I had to guess. [/QUOTE]