By no means saying Edwards deserves 20mpg

[Cuse_NYC]

Jesse’s feet are too slow, we just need to accept that. I rather see frank get time.

Fine with Frank getting out there. JBA is a div 2 guy...

 

[Trueblue25]

We need to replace or hire over our big man coach. In my opinion Edwards is not ready physically or mentally to work against ACC bigs, but because Bourama’s out we need him to play to provide some length and a 5 skill set at the position. This is awful considering this programs lacked a true center since Rak.

 

[Doc5120]

I would take Jesse all day over JBA.
One of them is getting minutes now and the others isn’t.
If JBA were Keita he would be able to play defense and just can’t catch the ball or do anything on offense.
Keita was a rim protector. I don’t see that from JBA.

I understand where you're coming from since 1 guy is playing and the other is not. Buddy is also getting 40 mpg and Kadary is seeing limited minutes. Who knows if it's a situation like that, but just pointing it out.

My opinion - neither one can do much of anything at this point in time. JBA moves better so he'd be my choice, but it's not like we're deciding between Olajuwon and David Robinson.

Honestly, I think Anselem has the highest ceiling. He seems to be the most athletic by far. I think he'll eventually be the C of the future.

 

[Scooch]

I agree penetration is a huge problem the past two years. We all know the fix for that.

I feel like we forget what having a competent center is like though. Somebody like Christmas could help some of those problems.

Honestly, JB Reafsnyder would be a colossal improvement over what we have at the 5 right now. That's not exaggeration. It's mind-blowing that we have three C's on scholarship that cannot contribute at all right now.

 

[imdevo]

The issue is more macro. We have three backup centers, and not one of them can play. We should probably consider recruiting centers who can play.

Or coaches that can develop centers?

 

[malpearl31]

While your watching the highlights did you notice that Edwards wouldn't be so out of position if Buddy and GJlll could stay in front of anybody... for this team to make a run they need more size and you can't count on Sidbe with his bad knee... Edwards has to be allowed to play though his mistakes .

The problem with a comment like this is that for the entire period that Jesse was in the game - so was Kadary (and JG3 was out). So trying to pin Jesse's failures on the the fact that 'Buddy and Joe can't stay in front of anybody' is nonsense, plain and simple.

Everything does not need to be blamed on Buddy and Joe.

 

[City of Cuse]

Honestly, JB Reafsnyder would be a colossal improvement over what we have at the 5 right now. That's not exaggeration. It's mind-blowing that we have three C's on scholarship that cannot contribute at all right now.

It really is crazy. Almost every team we play i end up saying, why can't we get a guy like that at the center spot?

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

If anything, the leash should be longer for a big kid who is learning.

The problem is this team has no margin for error

 

[UD1954]

Edwards is playing scared

 

[OHIORANGES]

Any kid committing to SU should hopefully be fully aware of and prepared for JB's coaching, berating, and public comments when they aren't playing well.
That's just the facts.

Other than his son that is

 

[OttoinGrotto]

It's funny, this board goes back and forth on should a guy be pulled for bad plays.

I said this last year and i will say it again, if Cuse does not grab a center in the transfer market, they will be mediocre again next year. I'm not going to believe we have a good center on the team until they go out and prove it.

To me, if you get toasted on defense, it happens. You want to at least be in position though. You can't control what the other team does. They will score baskets.

On offense though, bad shots... that's all on the player. They're fully in control of that decision.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Honestly, JB Reafsnyder would be a colossal improvement over what we have at the 5 right now. That's not exaggeration. It's mind-blowing that we have three C's on scholarship that cannot contribute at all right now.

Reafsnyder would be super well suited to today's game.

It's not a stretch to think he would be a 5 that knocks in the occasional three nowadays.

 

[Scott11]

Edwards can catch a pass and dunk, which frankly is something we could not say about a number of our bigs the past few seasons. He is long and plays hard. He has shown a nice stroke particularly at the line. Yes he needs to gain strength and speed. But there is no reason he should not be giving Marek a rest and playing 5-6 mpg. He showed what he can do in the Miami game and why JB has not allowed him to build off of that is beyond me.

And the idea that he should be yanked for one bad play on defense after games of inactivity is silly and remarkably shortsighted. There is no reason this kid should not be significantly contributing by next season.

 

[cuseincincy]

I think it's in the best interest of both SU and Jesse for him to be "nudged out" next year. If Jesse went to a Patriot League-level program, he could get more minutes and probably even be a starter. I just think its a better fit for him.

He's not particularly coordinated, he's weak, and he's the definition of lumbering when he runs. You can't be all three of those things at this level. It just is what it is. Some human beings are cut out for ACC basketball and others aren't.

He seems like a nice kid and I want him to be successful. But it doesn't seem like SU/ACC is the place that facilitates that opportunity.

I'll flip on it you and disagree/agree...If Jesse had gone to a Patriot League type team initially he would likely be a great candidate to transfer up to an ACC level team as a 5th year senior after having started for 3 years and developed and matured. But agree with everything else you said. The sad thing is he isn't even "sitting behind anyone." The coach has decided to play a SF instead.

 

[RF2044]

Edwards can catch a pass and dunk, which frankly is something we could not say about a number of our bigs the past few seasons. He is long and plays hard. He has shown a nice stroke particularly at the line. Yes he needs to gain strength and speed. But there is no reason he should not be giving Marek a rest and playing 5-6 mpg. He showed what he can do in the Miami game and why JB has not allowed him to build off of that is beyond me.

And the idea that he should be yanked for one bad play on defense after games of inactivity is silly and remarkably shortsighted. There is no reason this kid should not be significantly contributing by next season.

I said after the Miami game that the only thing it earned him with JB was the opportunity to get his number called in the first half of the next game. I suggested that he'd need to play well again, or he'd get pulled and relegated back to the bench. And unfortunately, that's exactly what happened.

It is counter productive to play Marek in the middle for extended stretches, due to how easily he gets exploited by opposing bigs. I wouldn't have a problem with it in limited doses, or end of game strategy to get the best five on the floor, etc. -- but as a 35+ minute per game strategy, it is short-sighted. There is no reason for Edwards not getting 6 minutes per game, even if it's just to use fouls and get Marek [or Quincy] a quick rest.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I'll flip on it you and disagree/agree...If Jesse had gone to a Patriot League type team initially he would likely be a great candidate to transfer up to an ACC level team as a 5th year senior after having started for 3 years and developed and matured. But agree with everything else you said. The sad thing is he isn't even "sitting behind anyone." The coach has decided to play a SF instead.

Akshooooooooly he's decided to play a 2G at forward.

 

[Chip]

I’d say urge him and JBA to move on and free up scholarships, but barring a catastrophic injury situation, 13 scholarships is more than a JB run program needs anyway.

We had 3 guards transfer after last season, it didn’t seem to impact anything. Speaking of which, none of them are exactly tearing it up so maybe we just need to accept that we have a huge talent acquisition issue and accept things for what they are. At least until the next regime, which will hopefully energize the recruiting process.

 

[Eric15]

We had 3 guards transfer after last season, it didn’t seem to impact anything.

I actually think we have a troublesome shortage of guards. I wish we still had either Carey or Goodine on the roster.

 

[Chip]

I actually think we have a troublesome shortage of guards. I wish we still had either Carey or Goodine on the roster.

At many programs perhaps. But in this one, would they play at all save for Covid or unusual foul trouble?

I think they’d be on the bench most of the time and possibly miserable wondering what could have been if they had left.

 

[Scooch]

At many programs perhaps. But in this one, would they play at all save for Covid or unusual foul trouble?

I think they’d be on the bench most of the time and possibly miserable wondering what could have been if they had left.

Kadary is averaging 16 minutes in the games where Buddy has played. Three seems more than enough for JB. 2 1/2 is more like it.

 

[DoctorBombay]

I said after the Miami game that the only thing it earned him with JB was the opportunity to get his number called in the first half of the next game. I suggested that he'd need to play well again, or he'd get pulled and relegated back to the bench. And unfortunately, that's exactly what happened.

It is counter productive to play Marek in the middle for extended stretches, due to how easily he gets exploited by opposing bigs. I wouldn't have a problem with it in limited doses, or end of game strategy to get the best five on the floor, etc. -- but as a 35+ minute per game strategy, it is short-sighted. There is no reason for Edwards not getting 6 minutes per game, even if it's just to use fouls and get Marek [or Quincy] a quick rest.

Two words: Bad practice.

 

[orangeinnyc]

That one move around him was bad. He had no reason to jump on that one. His movement allowed the little guard to go right around him. He just needed to stand his ground with his hands way up, would have caused the guard to rethink, or alter his shot.

All that being said, it was 2 points. We weren't losing the game on that play. Marek gave up far more points being out of position yesterday. Sometimes you let the kid play through it and they do better. JB allows that for some and NONE for others.

That’s fair but I counted at least 3 plays he was out of position. Also he gave up a layup by over committing to the guy at the foul line. He is going to get his shot during games to earn more mins but he needs to take advantage of it and he didn’t last night.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

That’s fair but I counted at least 3 plays he was out of position. Also he gave up a layup by over committing to the guy at the foul line. He is going to get his shot during games to earn more mins but he needs to take advantage of it and he didn’t last night.

I can’t remember him being in for three plays

 

[kcsu]

Its a joke. Pulling a kid after 2 minutes isn't going to do anything other than destroy his confidence.
Unless it is strategic kids need to play 3-5 minutes.
Having played especially when you are a young player you dont even get your bearings for a few minutes. Its actually horrible coaching. Name any other coach that pulls kids as often as Jim. Total BS on his part.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

Sidibe played like a power forward in high school, and had a pretty sweet midrange shot. We installed him at Center and took away that face-up jumper.

JBA played like Lydon/a 3. An outside player. We installed him at Center, thinking we could take a kid who didn't even start for his high school team, change his position, and convert him to Center.

Edwards—if my recollection is correct—again, didn't start for the upper level team at his 'academy.' Relatively new to basketball.

So, we have three players who are supposed to be Centers in the best conference in the country, who either aren't centers and/or weren't even good enough to start in high school.

And they're being 'coached up' by who again? Which of our former guards with zero post experience? Someone's going to chime in to remind us that Bernie was a bigs genius and never played the game or somesuch. Which isn't proof of anything, nor is it predictive of anything, nor is it a reasonable strategy.

None of this seems logical.

It's not the sole reason why we flounder mid-pack in the ACC, but it's a bigs part of it.

Sometimes i think JB does stuff because he's so arrogant that he believes he's 'gonna show everybody' how brilliant he is by making success out of something stupid. I think Marek's our center because everyone thought Steve Kerr was brilliant for Draymond Green. That's the only explanation i have. He's not a stupid man. But, he has some stupid ideas. And he clings to them like they're a part of him. That's a component of narcissism. I used to flippantly say that JB changed from nebbish to narcissist when he won the National Championship. That in his pocket was like "FU Money."

Alright. Cue the parade of folks with "Jim Boeheim" sharpied-over the "Syracuse" on their jerseys...