Cal opens -6.5 over Cuse…

[HRE Otto IV]

9 point loss is a win for both. 10 a push and a win.

 

[AAM62]

Still getting 8.5 on FD. Do I throw it on Cal now, or wait until it's 10 and throw it on Syracuse? Tough call.

Both

 

[Chip]

9 point loss is a win for both. 10 a push and a win.

Now you have me relying on our kicker, either good or bad.

 

[23Zone]

We're 6-3! I could understand this mentality if it was like one of those Greg Robinson seasons where we're like 1-8 and getting murdered every week. Other than the Pitt debacle this has been a very entertaining football season.

If you call getting plowed over by BC all day long as entertaining then we don't share the same definition of entertainment

 

[upperdeck]

I don't think we have even played a B+ type game yet. Lets hope we see one this year where both sides play well

 

[Eric15]

If you call getting plowed over by BC all day long as entertaining then we don't share the same definition of entertainment

We were still one shady onsides kick penalty from having the ball to take the lead with a minute left.

 

[Scotch]

Up to -10!! We are 10 point underdogs to Berkeley. The apocalypse is truly upon us

 

[upperdeck]

We were still one shady onsides kick penalty from having the ball to take the lead with a minute left.

a 4th and 1 or a onside kick or a safety that never should have been called that caused a 10pt swing

 

[Eric15]

I don't think we have even played a B+ type game yet. Lets hope we see one this year where both sides play well

We played a fantastic game against Georgia Tech up until the final few minutes.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

We played a fantastic game against Georgia Tech up until the final few minutes.

We played well but fantastic is a little overstated. The game turned on the 4th and 1. At the time of that play we had only 3 points from 6:19 in the 2nd Q until 12:40 in the 4th Q.

It was a rare game where we came out on fire offensively. The first 23:41 on O was certainly fantastic. Followed by the 27:40 where we really struggled. We also did a fantastic job at shutting down their RB.

Definitely a B+ but not our A game even prior to the last 8 mins.

 

[David321]

We're winning this game. Orange on the warpath.

 

[ImperialOrange]

a 4th and 1 or a onside kick or a safety that never should have been called that caused a 10pt swing

Has there been any explanation why that was given as a safety and not a touch back after BC pushed the ball out of the end zone? I'd somehow repressed that

 

[dwilmont44]

Has there been any explanation why that was given as a safety and not a touch back after BC pushed the ball out of the end zone? I'd somehow repressed that

They were trying to recover it and it went out. If they kicked it on purpose I think that would be a penalty.

 

[anomander]

Has there been any explanation why that was given as a safety and not a touch back after BC pushed the ball out of the end zone? I'd somehow repressed that

That was the correct call. If the defense kicks the ball out of the end zone they were responsible for making the play. It should have been a safety.

 

[OttosShoes]

The rule on that looks at the 'impetus' (force) that sent the ball out. If the offense sent it out it's a safety, if the defense it's a touchback. We keep getting caught up on the kick, but muffs (scrambling to pick it up) don't count either way. However, that doesn't put it on us, it just means the call goes back to the previous 'impetus' on the ball, which was when it was punched loose.

For it to be the 100% correct call, Kyle would have had to pitch it backward, or fumble while running into the backfield. He pretty obviously did not do either of those things.

Now, while I am personally convinced the call was wrong, given the complexity of the situation and the ambiguity/judgement call aspect of the ball coming loose, I also don't think it was egregious enough to get upset over. It's more or less a "that's the way the cookie crumbled" type of thing.

 

[upperdeck]

Safety was the correct call once you allowed the fumble.. Not calling it dead was the wrong call.

 

[ImperialOrange]

That was the correct call. If the defense kicks the ball out of the end zone they were responsible for making the play. It should have been a safety.

that's interesting because if an offensive player fumbles through the opposition end zone it's a touch back and turnover... does the defender not represent the same once they progress the ball forward?

 

[anomander]

that's interesting because if an offensive player fumbles through the opposition end zone it's a touch back and turnover... does the defender not represent the same once they progress the ball forward?

The difference is the defense created the play. Similar to when a punter drops the ball and instead of allowing the defense to pick it up for a touchdown they'll kick it out of the end zone for a safety. Plus I used chatGPT