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At least, that's what I'm forced to conclude after all of the inordinate hype we've been subjected to this past week. How could they possibly lose, with all of that NBA talent?

Kudos to Wisconsin. ABK.
 
GoHamSU said:
Dumbest argument in sports is claiming a pro team will be beat by a college team
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I totally agree, however I watched the Knicks against the Sixers last night and they were both terrible. They would both beat Kentucky, but they were terrible.
 
GoHamSU said:
Dumbest argument in sports is claiming a pro team will be beat by a college team
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Agreed. Its asinine--and yet members of the sports media bring it up / make that claim every year.

The difference in post play alone is night and day.
 
On the good side he's a (1) great recruiter - regardless of the tactics he uses, as far as I'm aware the notion that he cheats at UK, though it certainly seems shady, is conjecture at this point, (2) great player/talent developer, (3) good leader - his players seem to like, listen to, and respect him - he seems to manage player egos pretty well.

I think he's lacking in (1) pre-game preparation - how does D. Rose hardly touch the ball in the Memphis/Kansas final several years back? and (2) in-game adjustment.

Overall - making the # of final fours he has indicates he's no slouch, but given the sheer advantage he's had in talent over anyone else in college b-ball for the past decade and a half, the shady tactics used to recruit and retain guys like Camby and Rose, as well as the ones he's very possibly using at UK, you'd expect a few more championships.
 
GoHamSU said:
Dumbest argument in sports is claiming a pro team will be beat by a college team
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didn't that happen once or twice when in football when a all star college team played a pro team? i forgot what they called that game, but it was played annually for a while and then discontinued
 
El Jefe Syr said:
I think he's lacking in (1) pre-game preparation - how does D. Rose hardly touch the ball in the Memphis/Kansas final several years back?
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Let's not forget Memphis' failure to foul and instead letting Kansas get off a game-tying 3 a the end of regulation.

I don't care for Cal or Kentucky, but I don't think it's fair to kill him for losing one game when he did.

Anything can happen in the Final 4.
At least 3 teams - Wisconsin, Duke and Arizona - were at least as good as Kentucky going in.
All 3 of them have excellent coaches.

Wisconsin's experienced team got it done with the game on the line.
And they're a real "team" in every sense of the word.
Just look at how Trae Jackson has responded since he came back and didn't want to interfere with the job Bronson Keonig was doing running the point.
Love Jackson's game...so this is a tribute to him and Bo Ryan.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/badg...and-bronson-koenig-b99474296z1-298649641.html
 
Kentucky got waaay to much hype this year. I've been saying that for weeks now, not just after this loss. Were they a heck of a team? Sure... but beatable as we saw. In my bracket, I picked Dook to beat them (even though I will be rooting for Dook to lose tonight). I wonder how many losses Kentucky would have had this year if they were in the ACC - I say 3-4 at least.

I'll post it again just because it brings me joy...

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RF2044 said:
Agreed. Its asinine--and yet members of the sports media bring it up / make that claim every year.

The difference in post play alone is night and day.
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Not to mention, it would be legit offensive to the pro team to even have to play the college team. If you don't think they would be set out to prove a point..

It would be ugly.
 
GoHamSU said:
Not to mention, it would be legit offensive to the pro team to even have to play the college team. If you don't think they would be set out to prove a point..

It would be ugly.
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Agreed the pro's would play with ridiculous intensity and blow the game open in the first 8-min. Then they would humiliate the college team as much as possible the rest of the way. Almost every pro was a good/great college player and they have been playing against pro's.
 
dasher said:
Actually it isn't. as dumb as that argument is, here in ct the Hartford current actually had az poll asking who would win between the uconn men and the uconn woman. Something like 30% said the Uconn woman.
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I cannot understand why people cannot simply take a step back and look at these things logically. How much bigger and longer is the mens team on average per position. That doesn't even take into account athleticism such as leaping, lateral quickness ect. Don't the woman also still play with a smaller ball?
 
back to the op, cal is the worst coach in college bball? come on. his teams consistent primarily of freshmen and underclassmen. hes far from the worst coach.
 
jgeorge322 said:
back to the op, cal is the worst coach in college bball? come on. his teams consistent primarily of freshmen and underclassmen. hes far from the worst coach.
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tipphill said:
didn't that happen once or twice when in football when a all star college team played a pro team? i forgot what they called that game, but it was played annually for a while and then discontinued
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Yeah, in the infancy of the NFL I think it happened. The difference being that many of the top players stopped playing after college because professional football wasn't taken seriously and didn't pay much at the time.
 
Yeah, the "They could beat an NBA team," talk was old the minute it started. I was talking to a friend that was buying into it a little and he stated he thought it was possible because they had at least 7 NBA players on the team. I then felt the need to point out that every player on an NBA roster is an NBA player and most, if not all, have mature games. Anthony Davis was a solid player his first year in the league (13.5 ppg 8.2 rpg) but definitely not a top tier guy yet. No one on this KU team is as good as him.
 
sufandu said:
Yeah, in the infancy of the NFL I think it happened. The difference being that many of the top players stopped playing after college because professional football wasn't taken seriously and didn't pay much at the time.
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I watched those games. The college all stars played the NFL champ and the tradition lasted for many years. The college boys were not playing a bunch of inferior pros. Pros had the upper hand, but not always. Back then the college boys were 4 year players. If this were recreated and all college players stayed for 4 years, the college players, I would expect, would win about 1 in 5, but half of the games would be close. Under current conditions, with no college longevity, the boys would win less than 10% of the time and the games would be pro blow-outs.

The NFL was relatively big at the time. They paid what were considered to be very high salaries. The best football players were in the NFL. College stars were not turning down pro contracts because of opportunity costs, LOL.
 
El Jefe Syr said:
On the good side he's a (1) great recruiter - regardless of the tactics he uses, as far as I'm aware the notion that he cheats at UK, though it certainly seems shady, is conjecture at this point, (2) great player/talent developer, (3) good leader - his players seem to like, listen to, and respect him - he seems to manage player egos pretty well.
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I disagree with #2. There is no evidence that he does anything to develop players. He only coaches them for a few months. What he is great at is recruiting and getting what amounts to an all-star team to play as a cohesive unit. But that is where his coaching accolades end. Basically he has a McDonald's All American team and you can see how pitiful those teams are when you watch the game - he coaches them up into a real team over the course of 3 or 4 months. But development? No. The guys he gets would be lotto picks if they went to Colgate or if the 1 and done rule didn't exist. Neither he nor Kentucky is doing anything to change that.
 
AlaskaSU said:
I watched those games. The college all stars played the NFL champ and the tradition lasted for many years. The college boys were not playing a bunch of inferior pros. Pros had the upper hand, but not always. Back then the college boys were 4 year players. If this were recreated and all college players stayed for 4 years, the college players, I would expect, would win about 1 in 5, but half of the games would be close. Under current conditions, with no college longevity, the boys would win less than 10% of the time and the games would be pro blow-outs.

The NFL was relatively big at the time. They paid what were considered to be very high salaries. The best football players were in the NFL. College stars were not turning down pro contracts because of opportunity costs, LOL.
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What time period is it that you're referencing? The thing I watched that talked about it stated that the NFL wasn't respected at the time, but I think the time period being referenced was the 1930's. I didn't know it continued for so long.
 
I wanted to bang my head against the ing dashboard when Mike and Mike were talking Kentucky vs the Knicks. Disregarding the other obvious reasons why this is stupid, why would anyone think that NY would approach a game like that with the same mind set that they would a random Tuesday night game against Charlotte?
 
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