Can't help but to feel differently about this team

[Jeremy L.]

As many have said, playing at Louisville is extremely difficult. At the end of the day this loss doesn't hurt us. Beat NC State, Pitt and @FSU and people will forget about this game.

 

[Nicknack]

Dude. We don't beat Pitt. I don't care if we have our best team ever and they have their worst, we'd still need a miracle to win. It is just how it works. At least since Howland got there. I am not making any comment on the quality of our team, we just don't beat them. If it happens, consider it a complete bonus from the heavensm but don't expect it.

I FULLY understand the struggles that we have against Pitt but to say "We don't beat Pitt" is borderline insane. After we win on Saturday, we will be 5-4 against them over the last five years. That my friend, is a WINNING record. They have definitely gotten the best of us over a longer period of time, but still, facts are facts - we CAN and DO beat Pitt.

 

[CorduroyG]

Dude. We don't beat Pitt. I don't care if we have our best team ever and they have their worst, we'd still need a miracle to win. It is just how it works. At least since Howland got there. I am not making any comment on the quality of our team, we just don't beat them. If it happens, consider it a complete bonus from the heavensm but don't expect it.

As someone else pointed out, we're 4-4 in our last 8 against pitt. We're at home. Huge saturday afternoon crowd. Huge game for our tourny resume. Our guys will be ready.

 

[HoustonCuse]

I'm not saying this is a final four team or anything, but there's really no shame in getting blown out @ Louisville.

I agree, I sort of knew we were doomed when we had a double digit lead in the first half. I told my wife at the time that we would lose by an amount bigger than our first half lead. Some things just don't change. Lousiville has always made us look silly, and last night was a carbon copy of many other games against them. At least we have no chance of facing them in the ACC or NCAA tournament!

 

[HoustonCuse]

I FULLY understand the struggles that we have against Pitt but to say "We don't beat Pitt" is borderline insane. After we win on Saturday, we will be 5-4 against them over the last five years. That my friend, is a WINNING record. They have definitely gotten the best of us over a longer period of time, but still, facts are facts - we CAN and DO beat Pitt.

OK. Uncle. I guess I have too many scars. I won't watch the game live. It is the only game I will check the score for and then decide if I will watch the tape. I just value my own life more than to watch a game against those unflushable turds unless I know we won it.

 

[SBU72]

SU fan version of a manic/depressive. Win a few games in a row and the team has a shot at a NC. Lose a couple and the team will be lucky to make the tourney. The truth is somewhere in the middle.

 

[MikeSU02]

We have three guys playing out of position with G, Mal and Lydon that all get major minutes.

We were on the road against Ville.

I think we are doing fine.

 

[bballbeadle]

I FULLY understand the struggles that we have against Pitt but to say "We don't beat Pitt" is borderline insane. After we win on Saturday, we will be 5-4 against them over the last five years. That my friend, is a WINNING record. They have definitely gotten the best of us over a longer period of time, but still, facts are facts - we CAN and DO beat Pitt.

Nicknack, what is the story behind your avatar? Who is that dude?

 

[orangecuse]

I'm not saying this is a final four team or anything, but there's really no shame in getting blown out @ Louisville.

I'm not disagreeing, but where I do have somewhat of an issue in getting blown out is reading quotes like this below.

"I think it was just kinda on us," SU forward Tyler Lydon said. "We didn't come out with the right kind of intensity. Just one of those games."

"We didn't come out ready to play," SU guard Trever Cooney said. "That's why that happened."

I get guys having an off night as they did last night (offensively) and, how JB eluded that we just don't have that kind of room for error with one guy off, not to mention two or more. But how do you not come out ready to play or lack of intensity, etc., especially as a competitor, let alone a competitor at this high level? That's hard for me to digest, especially when so much is riding on each and every game relative to the NCAA tourney.

In my view, there's really never a legitimate excuse for not giving full effort on D. Watching that 2nd half debacle (again, I'm stressing effort, mental toughness, mindset, etc. when it comes to D) is really inexcusable, allowing for all those Top 10 SportsCenter moments at Syracuse's expense. The boys should be embarrassed. Hopefully, after watching film they'll come together and won't ever lack that effort again, not only for their own self respect & pride, but never forgetting the name across the front of their jersey's either.

 

[br801]

I'm not disagreeing, but where I do have somewhat of an issue in getting blown out is reading quotes like this below.

"I think it was just kinda on us," SU forward Tyler Lydon said. "We didn't come out with the right kind of intensity. Just one of those games."

"We didn't come out ready to play," SU guard Trever Cooney said. "That's why that happened."

I get guys having an off night as they did last night (offensively) and, how JB eluded that we just don't have that kind of room for error with one guy off, not to mention two or more. But how do you not come out ready to play or lack of intensity, etc., especially as a competitor, let alone a competitor at this high level? That's hard for me to digest, especially when so much is riding on each and every game relative to the NCAA tourney.

In my view, there's really never a legitimate excuse for not giving full effort on D. Watching that 2nd half debacle (again, I'm stressing effort, mental toughness, mindset, etc. when it comes to D) is really inexcusable, allowing for all those Top 10 SportsCenter moments at our expense. The boys should be embarrassed. Hopefully, after watching film they'll come together and say we won't ever lack that effort again, not only for their own self respect & pride, but never forgetting the name across the front of their jersey's either.

Don't take these post game quotes literally. If they hadn't come out ready to play, how were they able to build a 12-point lead?

 

[UelSU]

We are just not good against pressure teams. This game was a lot like the Miami game IMO. It seems to throw the whole team off.

 

[OttoMets]

Don't take these post game quotes literally. If they hadn't come out ready to play, how were they able to build a 12-point lead?

Yep, agree with that. Though Lydon did look off from the get-go. He guided that early open baseline jumper and generally looked harried from that point on.

 

[orangecuse]

Don't take these post game quotes literally. If they hadn't come out ready to play, how were they able to build a 12-point lead?

Well, they built that lead because Louisville had 5 turnover's in the first few minutes of the game, combined with them not being able to hit the broadside of a barn. I think that's a bit different than coming out at the half of a one point game and then claiming to lay down due to "lack of intensity" or "not being ready to play." I get the quotes are cliche (ish), etc. But would rather them just say something along the lines of they were just the better team tonight... :noidea:

 

[br801]

Yep, agree with that. Though Lydon did look off from the get-go. He guided that early open baseline jumper and generally looked harried from that point on.

Yes, he's had games like that before. He will figure it out in time. When Coleman sat down early with his second of two questionable fouls, the dynamic seemed to change.

 

[br801]

Well, they built that lead because Louisville had 5 turnover's in the first few minutes of the game, combined with them not being able to hit the broadside of a barn. I think that's a bit different than coming out at the half of a one point game and then claiming to lay down due to "lack of intensity" or "not being ready to play."

I would contend that SU's defense had something to do with Louisville's slow start.

 

[Dave85]

than I did 3 hours ago. I honestly didn't think we could possibly look this inferior. Richardson and Lydon became freshmen again. Disgusting defensive effort in 2nd half gave a lame duck team an all time highlight reel. They should be totally embarrassed.

Lydon had a better game against Clifford. AO's brother was just too strong. Pitino knows how to coach his players to bust our zone. It's no big deal. This team still has a great potential to make a decent tournament runs against teams that do not face teams that play zone. We will be fine. The Yum Center is a really hard place to play.

I just hope we can beat Pitt. Pitt knows how to bust our zone too. Maybe the guys will play inspired and anger after losing.

 

[orangecuse]

I would contend that SU's defense had something to do with Louisville's slow start.

Fair enough.

 

[Dave85]

That'll teach you to get seduced by a long stretch of solid, winning basketball from a team most people had written off in early January.

Best response ever.

 

[ThePoint]

We are just not good against pressure teams. This game was a lot like the Miami game IMO. It seems to throw the whole team off.

Agreed
I knew we were in trouble when I saw a L'viile guard jump the pick and knock G backward. He got called for it but it then they knew how hard they could bump us up top. Hard enough to distract - without knocking us backward.

 

[Knicks411]

Don't take these post game quotes literally. If they hadn't come out ready to play, how were they able to build a 12-point lead?

That's also what you say when you lose like that. Agree, wouldnt really read anything into it

 

[MSOrange]

Don't take these post game quotes literally. If they hadn't come out ready to play, how were they able to build a 12-point lead?

Agree. I read all the articles but I don't take many quotes that any athletes make after games very seriously.

 

[Nicknack]

Nicknack, what is the story behind your avatar? Who is that dude?

bballeadle... he actually sort of looks like me or I look like him. With just the exception of the giant forehead, stache and chin hair, crazy right eye, giant sized ears and fantastic green smoke. Other than that, I feel like I'm looking in the mirror.

What about you, my lady?

 

[TheCusian]

Louisville has our number like we have ND's.

We won't see them in the postseason so not worried.

 

[bballbeadle]

bballeadle... he actually sort of looks like me or I look like him. With just the exception of the giant forehead, stache and chin hair, crazy right eye, giant sized ears and fantastic green smoke. Other than that, I feel like I'm looking in the mirror.

What about you, my lady?

HA HA HA! I change my avatar every year. Last year it was a duck. This year it's Nemo because I had a fantastic diving experience in Indonesia. I resemble neither, although I like to think I have something in common with Nemo's perky expression.

 

[nycfan]

Dude. We don't beat Pitt. I don't care if we have our best team ever and they have their worst, we'd still need a miracle to win. It is just how it works. At least since Howland got there. I am not making any comment on the quality of our team, we just don't beat them. If it happens, consider it a complete bonus from the heavensm but don't expect it.

Kudos HoustonCuse, as you were consistent all week on this. In fact, here is another one of yours from a completely different thread:

The fact remains that we have almost no shot at beating them. We never do. I have no idea why. I don't watch our games against them anymore. Although I did watch the Tyler Ennis game live and what an amazing ride that was. But it was a fluke.