CFP Rankings for Nov 9

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Still don't get Oregon. They probably should be flipped with Oklahoma. Yes, Oregon beat Ohio State but the rest of their resume is poor. Plus you have Michigan ahead of Michigan State, so? Although Michigan was robbed by the refs in that game. Why no respect for Oklahoma? Where is Clemson? They aren't Clemson this year but they still have talent. Close losses to #1, at #16, and at #21. There are 5 other 3 L teams in the Top 25 so why not them?

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Also interesting that Houston is not ranked (who 8 in a row after losing to Texas Tech in their opener). That could hurt Cincy's chances.

If A&M wins this week it will put a lot of pressure on Bama to win their last 2.

BYU should be about 5 spots lower than they are. Crazy that they can end up Top 10 with that resume.

 

[zjscuse]

I’m so tired of the same 5 - 6 teams being the teams in the playoff every year it’s so boring and not good for the sport

 

[David321]

Still don't get Oregon. They probably should be flipped with Oklahoma. Yes, Oregon beat Ohio State but the rest of their resume is poor. Plus you have Michigan ahead of Michigan State, so? Although Michigan was robbed by the refs in that game. Why no respect for Oklahoma? Where is Clemson? They aren't Clemson this year but they still have talent. Close losses to #1, at #16, and at #21. There are 5 other 3 L teams in the Top 25 so why not them?

Agreed, their only impressive win is Ohio State, whose only impressive win is Penn State. Oregon is a paper tiger.

 

[OrangeTarheel]

I feel like after Cincy someone just said “make sure as many conferences have something to follow here as possible”. And what is Wake doing at #12 half those teams below them would blow them out on the road.

 

[javadoc]

Yawn. The sport is not in a good state, viewed as a whole.

 

[Horn88]

Big but under the radar game to watch this weekend is Tenn and UGA. UGA will probably win comfortably because Tenn defense won’t be able to stop them but Tenn will be the most explosive, uptempo passing attack UGA has played all year. If Tenn’s attack has success and can move the ball it may be a canary in the coal mine that Bama or Ohio St could be a tough match up.

If they bottle them up like they have everyone else than barring something unforeseen I don’t see anyone beating them.

 

[David321]

Yawn. The sport is not in a good state, viewed as a whole.

Not to contradict you but I think this has been the most exciting CFB season in memory. Tons of upsets. Beyond that, it should have never moved from the BCS model because now they have brought in human bias. But that’s another conversation.

 

[Eric15]

I love college football and think these rankings look pretty good. No major issues with them.

I apologize for the lame post.

 

[690West]

Still don't get Oregon. They probably should be flipped with Oklahoma. Yes, Oregon beat Ohio State but the rest of their resume is poor. Plus you have Michigan ahead of Michigan State, so? Although Michigan was robbed by the refs in that game. Why no respect for Oklahoma? Where is Clemson? They aren't Clemson this year but they still have talent. Close losses to #1, at #16, and at #21. There are 5 other 3 L teams in the Top 25 so why not them?

Agreed, their only impressive win is Ohio State, whose only impressive win is Penn State. Oregon is a paper tiger.

Vegas has Oregon #19 !! NINETEEN!!

 

[David321]

Vegas has Oregon #19 !! NINETEEN!!

I think any of the three ACC ranked teams are more than capable of beating them.

 

[MSOrange]

I love college football and think these rankings look pretty good. No major issues with them.

I apologize for the lame post.

I think the rankings are fine. I just think your declaration of parity last week was a bit premature. I'm just not seeing it.

 

[690West]

I think any of the three ACC ranked teams are more than capable of beating them.

Correct. Sagarin has Clemson, NC state, and Pitt ALL pickem vs. Oregon on neutral site

And Wake would only be a 1 point dog

 

[Eric15]

I think the rankings are fine. I just think your declaration of parity last week was a bit premature. I'm just not seeing it.

I think people exaggerate Georgia a bit. There have been seven playoffs and UGA has played in only one of them in 2017. I'm hoping Georgia beats Bama and knocks them out so we can get Cincy in the mix.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ohio State wins out, but they have an absolute four-game gauntlet coming up vs. Purdue, Michigan State, Michigan and then probably Wisconsin in the Big Ten champ game. Getting through that unscathed is going to be very tough.

But for whatever it's worth, of the teams in the Top 10 of the rankings right now, only two have won national titles in the past 20 years.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Not to contradict you but I think this has been the most exciting CFB season in memory. Tons of upsets. Beyond that, it should have never moved from the BCS model because now they have brought in human bias. But that’s another conversation.

IMO the below is more accurate of where the teams currently belong. I would have Oklahoma ahead of Cincy. I would put ND behind both Michigan schools. The rest of the Top 13 IMO is on point. The Oregon and Oklahoma rankings by the committee are mind boggling. Then again look at the committee's makeup:

3 B1G
3 P12
1 B12 whose alma mater is a P12 school

BTW how does a DII AD qualify to be on the committee? And only 1 former HC? Only 1 sports reporter?

 

[Eric15]

IMO the below is more accurate of where the teams currently belong. I would have Oklahoma ahead of Cincy. I would put ND behind both Michigan schools. The rest of the Top 13 IMO is on point. The Oregon and Oklahoma rankings by the committee are mind boggling. Then again look at the committee's makeup:

3 B1G
3 P12
1 B12 whose alma mater is a P12 school

BTW how does a DII AD qualify to be on the committee? And only 1 former HC? Only 1 sports reporter?

I just don't see how Ohio State can be ahead of Oregon right now.

Ohio State's SOS is 40 and they're 1-1 against the Sagarin Top 30. Oregon's SOS is 62 and they're 1-0 against Sagarin Top 30.

Oregon went into Columbus and took care of business. How is that head-to-head victory possibly not the tiebreaker in this scenario?

 

[HRE Otto IV]

I think people exaggerate Georgia a bit. There have been seven playoffs and UGA has played in only one of them in 2017. I'm hoping Georgia beats Bama and knocks them out so we can get Cincy in the mix.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ohio State wins out, but they have an absolute four-game gauntlet coming up vs. Purdue, Michigan State, Michigan and then probably Wisconsin in the Big Ten champ game. Getting through that unscathed is going to be very tough.

But for whatever it's worth, of the teams in the Top 10 of the rankings right now, only two have won national titles in the past 20 years.

There might not be parity but there is vulnerability. Outside of UGA there isn't a team that I see making it for sure. Usually there are 3 locks.

Bama- Arkansas, at Auburn, SEC CG
Oregon- at Utah, P12 CG
Ohio State- Purdue, Michigan State, at Michigan, B1G CG
Cincy- SMU, at ECU, AAC CG
Michigan- at Penn State, Ohio State, B1G CG
Michigan State- at Ohio State, Penn State, B1G CG
Oklahoma- at Baylor, Iowa State, at Okie State, B12 CG
Notre Dame- cake
Okie State- Oklahoma, B12 CG

Who do you have confidence in from the Top 10 going unscathed? Notre Dame is down this year but if everyone else picks each other off they could sneak into the conversation.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I think people exaggerate Georgia a bit. There have been seven playoffs and UGA has played in only one of them in 2017. I'm hoping Georgia beats Bama and knocks them out so we can get Cincy in the mix.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ohio State wins out, but they have an absolute four-game gauntlet coming up vs. Purdue, Michigan State, Michigan and then probably Wisconsin in the Big Ten champ game. Getting through that unscathed is going to be very tough.

But for whatever it's worth, of the teams in the Top 10 of the rankings right now, only two have won national titles in the past 20 years.

I know you love the sport so I won’t rain on your parade, but trying to convince people Georgia is an underdog is not going to win people over or get me to watch more games. I will continue to just watch Syracuse games and save my football watching for Sunday’s.

 

[MSOrange]

I think people exaggerate Georgia a bit. There have been seven playoffs and UGA has played in only one of them in 2017. I'm hoping Georgia beats Bama and knocks them out so we can get Cincy in the mix.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ohio State wins out, but they have an absolute four-game gauntlet coming up vs. Purdue, Michigan State, Michigan and then probably Wisconsin in the Big Ten champ game. Getting through that unscathed is going to be very tough.

But for whatever it's worth, of the teams in the Top 10 of the rankings right now, only two have won national titles in the past 20 years.

I appreciate your perspective and I'm glad you enjoy it, but I hope you understand why some fans aren't as interested.

I will also take issue with your last sentence and then saying there is parity. We have different definitions of parity. You look at it by national champions. I look at the same teams being in the playoff games each year.
These are from SI's college football preview:

"Beginning in 1998, the first year of the BCS and the dawn of the era when national championships are decided on the field and not in the polls, six teams have combined to win 74% of the championships: Alabama (6), LSU (3), Clemson (2), Florida State (2), Florida (2) and Ohio State (2). In the last 23 years, just 17 teams have qualified for the 46 spots in championship games.

The Playoff era, which began with the 2014 season, has been even more exclusive. Four teams—Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State and Oklahoma—have accounted for 20 of the 28 playoff spots (71%), and the Tide, Tigers and Buckeyes have combined for 11 of the possible 14 championship game berths. Last season marked a new extreme in the imbalance of the sport. For the first time in the seven years of the Playoff, none of the four participants were making their first appearance in the four-team bracket."

 

[HRE Otto IV]

I just don't see how Ohio State can be ahead of Oregon right now.

Ohio State's SOS is 40 and they're 1-1 against the Sagarin Top 30. Oregon's SOS is 62 and they're 1-0 against Sagarin Top 30.

Oregon went into Columbus and took care of business. How is that head-to-head victory possibly not the tiebreaker in this scenario?

They lost to a really bad team and have had a lot of close calls. They play in a weaker conference. SOS rankings are off IMO. Look at their schedules and tell me which would you rather have. Plus Oregon played an FCS which should be a punishment.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

I appreciate your perspective and I'm glad you enjoy it, but I hope you understand why some fans aren't as interested.

I will also take issue with your last sentence and then saying there is parity. We have different definitions of parity. You look at it by national champions. I look at the same teams being in the playoff games each year.
These are from SI's college football preview:

"Beginning in 1998, the first year of the BCS and the dawn of the era when national championships are decided on the field and not in the polls, six teams have combined to win 74% of the championships: Alabama (6), LSU (3), Clemson (2), Florida State (2), Florida (2) and Ohio State (2). In the last 23 years, just 17 teams have qualified for the 46 spots in championship games.

The Playoff era, which began with the 2014 season, has been even more exclusive. Four teams—Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State and Oklahoma—have accounted for 20 of the 28 playoff spots (71%), and the Tide, Tigers and Buckeyes have combined for 11 of the possible 14 championship game berths. Last season marked a new extreme in the imbalance of the sport. For the first time in the seven years of the Playoff, none of the four participants were making their first appearance in the four-team bracket."

UGA is like KU BBall. Kansas has 2 titles in the last 70 years but no one would say them being in the Top 10 is parity.

 

[orangedave]

I’m so tired of the same 5 - 6 teams being the teams in the playoff every year it’s so boring and not good for the sport

Would you feel the same way if SU was one of those same 5 - 6 teams? If teams are consistently good, they earn the position.

 

[Chip]

I just don't see how Ohio State can be ahead of Oregon right now.

I agree with you, but that's also the problem with doing it now. If Ohio State runs the table, they will have done it by beating a Purdue team that's on a nice streak, along with the two Michigans, and a Wisconsin team who is on a roll.

If Oregon keeps winning somewhat close games against Blur Face and Who Cares (for all you Succession fans), I think that head to head win is all but evaporated. Utah seems to be pretty good, but not the same.

That said, watch Oregon lose to Utah on Nov 20, all the B1G teams beat up on each other so everyone has 2 losses, Oklahoma lose @ Baylor and @ Bedlam, then win Big 12 CCG. Cincy lose to either SMU or Houston (assuming they'd playing them in an AAC CCG), Bama loses @ Auburn or to Georgia, and the whole thing become chaos. Need ND to lose @ UVA or @ Stanford too.

 

[David321]

IMO the below is more accurate of where the teams currently belong. I would have Oklahoma ahead of Cincy. I would put ND behind both Michigan schools. The rest of the Top 13 IMO is on point. The Oregon and Oklahoma rankings by the committee are mind boggling. Then again look at the committee's makeup:

3 B1G
3 P12
1 B12 whose alma mater is a P12 school

BTW how does a DII AD qualify to be on the committee? And only 1 former HC? Only 1 sports reporter?

How did you get this? Please link (if allowed) the website. I’d like to see this week to week going forward. I miss the BCS.