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Message: [QUOTE="OrangeDW, post: 4772747, member: 2458"] As someone (I think elimunelson) said too - having virtually zero chance of winning a national title has to hurt too. Back in the Graves, McNabb, etc. years we were considered a dark horse NC contender at times, and we beat almost every major college football program out there at some point between 87 and 01. Now it’s like there’s a handful of the same programs every single year competing for the NC, and everyone else is just kinda participating. Hoops is different. We get in the dance and have some momentum, and 75% of us will have us winning it all in our brackets. [/QUOTE]