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Message: [QUOTE="DilemaCuse, post: 4970147, member: 7621"] Haven't read all the posts but I'm not gonna criticize the coach, or the program on a macro level. We were undermanned, the 1st half effort after the 4 or 5 minute mark was disappointing. The 2nd half effort was nice to see. I hope the players learn the level of effort that is needed to win. I thought Bell made a couple of plays on defense which was good to see. I'm looking for small incremental signs of hope because the team is out manned right now. I hope Red can keep them together after giving the effort to tie it up and then run out of gas at the end. Wins will be few and hard to find to close out the year but I want to see how hard do they play, defend, the little things, etc. [/QUOTE]