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Message: [QUOTE="OrangeDW, post: 765542, member: 2458"] And that is when they need to just announce it as a sellout anyway. It's funny how I've been to early season hoops games announced at like 18k when there's nowhere near that there....but they seem to want to keep that stupid "the last time we sold out a football game was the opener on 1980" or whatever they say. I was at a lot of those Miami and VT games in the 90's. It was packed. Couldn't see an empty seat anywhere. If you can fudge these half empty games by thousands, they can call those packed houses sellouts. [/QUOTE]