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[QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 4521341, member: 237"]
Ok so I'm not saying they are forever losing their fanbase. That said the fanbase can and will shrink over time with a lack of success.

The football example was an extreme, an event that was the first since 87. As you saw with a couple losses that was an anomaly. We can build it back up but that itself takes sustained success.

Sustained success needs support and commitment- it's not a one way street. If we wait till 2026 without a turnaround year we will get a new hire that will need time. That change will help but after a decade plus of frustration you need to turn it around quickly. So the timeline to turning it around continues to extend which means getting that support back is further out. It risks the hoops program having a reduced ceiling like football now has.

So no fans aren't gone forever but fan support carries a direct relationship to success of a program. Now we have the NIL variable. So both success and time matters into all this.

None of what I'm saying is defeatist - and shouldn't be taken as such. If you were around long enough you would know I was one of the longest holdout optimists on here and I'm not going anywhere.
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