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Message: [QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 4521363, member: 237"] I can appreciate the optimism and would love it to be correct. As for the JB hate- it's not hate. Never was. Love JB- it's the program and his legacy both at issue here. Also losing season feels like the latest measuring stick being dropped. Results and recruiting both are down. The issue is how long this carries on. We all hope it turns soon but there are just so many things that have regressed. He has done enough and I'm just not convinced the nearing 80 yrs old version of JB can leave the program where it needs to be. [/QUOTE]