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[QUOTE="IthacaBarrel, post: 68019, member: 363"]
After year 3, I would imagine you could tell what Beamer's program was being built on beyond past success.. Tell me what the great vision is? Getting old, hearing about the old days.. the program is surrounded by guys looking to recpature past glory instead of trying to move forward and build their own path.. Do you think a great HC would care about what happened 20 years ago? That is my point.. We have sucked for 10 years now. Yeah but we beat Penn ST back in 87, jesus people still talking about McNabb who is all but retired at this point...

3 years ago we were told about this great vision that Marrone had, I just see a poorly coached team, yeah that surely needs more talent to be beyond good, but we still suck in the worst conference known to man. How is that Good? Yeah we need new facilities awful hard to open up the check book when you see the product on the field this year. I am am committed trust me but I am tired of this crap. marrone just will never be GREAT, average maybe but me personally, I want better. People can pile on me all they want, like I said the body of work this year speaks for itself. We have sucked week in week out, minus WVU. One great game, 2 average games and that is a reach (Wake, Toledo) and 5 horrible performances

Randy Shannon was average to below average, where did that get them?
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