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Message: [QUOTE="kingottoiii, post: 68722"] IB I am not sure if the fire Marrone thread was started by you or Tristy. I know it was deleted. But in it I mentioned that of the candidates to replace GRob, most would have been a lot worse than Marrone. Some would have been worse. Others would be around the same, but slightly worse. The only four that woulda been better IMO are Golden, Leech, Strong, and Jones. I think we may have been able to get Leech because he was at odds with Tech for a long time. However we couldn't afford him. Jones just started at SMU. He had only been there one year. Would he have left? I don't think so. Not for that SU program that GRob left. Now had we fired GRob a year early like we should have, I think we may have gotten Jones. Bad job by TGD and company. I think Strong was available for us. However he is a guy would would been gone before his contract was over. I think he would have left us in a really good spot. And maybe we could have hired his DC to step in as a replacement and hoped nothing changed (ala Mac to P). But taking a short term solution is risky. That leaves Golden, who I felt at the time was our best bet and still think he was our best bet. So IMO Marrone was the 2nd best guy we could have hired. It isn't like we missed out. Also you have to take into account our move to the ACC. If we hired Gill or Locksley, it is possible that the ACC said screw SU their FB is done. So you have to give Marrone credit there. Things certainly coulda been worse. Now back to Marrone. I agree his recruiting is lacking any play makers. He hasn't seemed to have any misses yet, as most kids have been contributors. So you cannot say he is a bad recruiter. But he certainly isn't a good one. Even GRob brought in playmakers. I also agree that his coaching is lacking. IMO we will always be fighting to make a Bowl year in and year out. I see him as a 6-8 W HC every year. Which is where we were from 1999-2004 and got Coach P fired. It sucks because Marrone being an alumn will not be let go if he caps out at that number. Unless he starts making changes to his staff and his O philosophy, I do not see him succeeding here. He won't fail, but he won't succeed. IMO succeeding is averaging 5-4 in the ACC and 8-5 overall. I think it is crazy to think that a guy who can't go 4-3 in this year's BE can achieve that coaching the same way he has so far. [/QUOTE]

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