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Message: [QUOTE="billsin01, post: 68945, member: 837"] Well, I'm not sure how valid my opinion is here since I really liked (loved?) Turner Gill, but I'd say I'm somewhere in the middle on Marrone. I'm a little shy of where IB is if he's one end of the scale but I am closer to his line of thinking. The one thing that holds me back from agreeing entirely is that I think Marrone has shown a willingness to change and if he can find himself a real, college offensive coordinator, I think there is a lot of potential here. A couple other points: -- Will people stop with the "34 games isn't enough to ..." stuff? There are very few offenses, for example, that are terrible or bad for the better part of three years and then suddenly explode in year 4. It's only 34 games but I've seen enough to know I really like Shafer as a DC (whether he's perfect or not, like I seem to think, is certainly debatable but I think it's hard to argue he hasn't been really, really good for the most part). Listen, you can make some conclusions after 34 games and suggesting Marrone, at minimum, has room for improvement or, in a more drastic case, has a limited ceiling is pretty fair. You may not share the opinion but it's not such a small sample size that you can't make any general conclusions. -- I never get people who are so fearful of really successful coaches leaving. Makes no sense. Getting two or three really, really successful seasons is great. Yeah, you'd love to land a guy who's great AND in it for the long haul, but that's a rare breed. Getting to the peak is important and worrying about what happens when you get there is pointless. I mean, the Cuse is actually a great example of this. If they hire Strong, for example, and he has three great seasons (we win 6 in year 1, then 9 in year 2 and 11 in year 3 -- completely hypothetical). There's a chance he stays or, say he leaves, we all of a sudden have a program fresh off a BCS appearance, stocked with talent and on the way to the ACC (and the cash that comes with it). That makes for a pretty attractive job, no? The point is -- get there first, worry about the rest later. -- I've said this a million times but I think recruiting is far less important than development. Therefore I'll hold my judgment on Marrone as a "recruiter" until I see a full two or three classes on campus for a couple years. My personal opinion, but I've seen ND pull 4 and 5 star kids with plenty of athleticism and fail to win consistently since the mid-90s. Talent is easier to find than it is to develop, IMO. [/QUOTE]

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