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Coach Search Options after Autry

All I can say is I'm pretty sure last night was not what Wildhack meant by playing meaningful games at the end of season. It's time to call the Code Red. Hodgson must have been salivating last night watching what Red served up for the main course lol

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Yeah Syracuse doesn't have the luxury of hiring a coach with no HC experience at this stage. I mean that shouldn't even be a question. GMac isn't close to the solution either sorry but not sorry. Some fans have this fantasy of GMac the player becoming GMac the SU coach. GMac hasn't done enough as HC yet. Kudos to his results this year so far but he needs a larger resume.
We did w Fran Brown when we really needed a guy w hc experience.
 
The qualifier is living there with money, for sure! Also the law school is separate from the main campus.

Arguably Brad Stevens was like that too.

Congratulations to your son! BC Law is an excellent school. The qualifier to my comment is definitely living there with lots of money. Just saying Gerry could very well end up sucked in like one of my favorite (former) basketball coaches :-) Brad Stevens won’t leave Celtics for Indiana: ‘I’m a 44-year-old M’
Wait u like Syracuse over chestnut hill because you judge it over route 9? I’d argue chestnut hill is the nicest college suburb of a major college period . Curious how one gets to the campus without going through the 10mm mansions btw route 9 and comm ave or beacon
 
Is that directed at me? Because I'm calling BS on that interpretation. What I said is that the capability to have baseline NIL resources is in place at Syracuse University, and will improve if a coach can deliver a winning product on the court. The failure our program is experiencing is one of coaching. NIL resources are not a systemic weakness that can't be provided.

Now, if the question is, will we have the same kind of disposable resources that an SEC team has, or frivolous b1g teams throw around? No. But that's not the only way to win. That's why I used to tune out when people would suggest that we need a top nil team to help Autry win. If that's the case, it was an even bigger sign that the coach was subpar.

And it certainly doesn't explain the fact that dozens of colleges, across all levels, across all conferences, are capable of fielding competitive teams without leading the pack in terms of NIL resources.

So to recap, anyone who thinks that our path back to the top 25 necessitates A small, private school like Syracuse with a limited alumni base always spending near the top of college basketball is setting themselves up for disappointment. Instead, a much more strategically viable path to success is to get a coach who knows what the heck they are doing, who can implement quality systems on both sides of the ball, who can recruit players to that system, and then you supplement that with the portal. There are lots of examples of programs that do this properly and well, like Purdue, like UVA.

Those are the type of programs we should emulate, not Arkansas that can just spend money because they have a benefactor with unlimited bankroll.

Hodgson checks a lot of the boxes. And for the record, there may be a lot of coaches who we wouldn't be able to pay enough, or have enough guarantees for. That's the problem with hiring a crappy coach to replace Boeheim and letting the program slip into further irrelevancy, with bigger question are all marks than we had 3 years ago.

There are literally dozens of teams, even at lower conferences, contending for NCAA tournament appearance this year, who routinely show an efficient offense and get after it defensively, with a fraction of our nil resources. If they can do it, so can we. We just need to land a coach who is competent, who can implement systems that will enable us to be competitive in modern college basketball, and then get the fan base enthusiastic again so that our NIL coffers grow.

Because trying to spend like Ohio State or SEC teams probably isn't going to be a strategy that is viable for us long term. Nor is going cheap and trying to hope that we can cobble together success, nor is trying to live in the shadow of past Glory by hiring yet another unqualified coach from the Boeheim coaching tree and hoping for a different result this time.

We need to pick a lane, and get it right this time. Not just pick the fastlane when we're driving a car that tops out at 50 mph.

John Wildhack has done a lot of sensational things here at Syracuse, but his legacy is riding on getting this next basketball hire right.
I truly feel with a winning coach we can get seats back into dome and create more money for program. Problem is we gotta win with what we have now but there is a place to become what we once were. No one can get 33,000 people in attendance but us. We have the way to do it just not the coach to do it. Hoping Hodge or maybe even Gmac depending on his choice of offense defense and subbing is. We can kill or obviously bomb it.
 
Hard to watch more embarrassments but this is how it goes when the ship is sinking.

New blood is coming.

-New Chancellor
-New AD
-New Hoops HeadCoach
-8 New Football Assistant Coaches; mainly a D Coordinator
-With the portal will have 100% new basketball team next year...

For the fanbase here that really cares and is invested in things, it can change quickly good or bad. All we can do is wait a few more weeks.
 
If the new coach watching has a pulse he’ll feel like he can coach better than Autry did tonight. Losses like this should turn the heat back up to 1000 degrees and hopefully push the backroom conversations farther along.
No one is announcing anything. Get over it. Rick Pitino Dr. Could have done nothing. Right now SU has good players, Duke has great players lots of them. If SU had played flawlessly the would have lost by 15/18. Last nights game was not on the coach. Sometimes you simply can’t beat a team. SU men’s Lax won Saturday vs Maryland first tim in 17years. Better players by a lot mostly win!!!
Always thought the last chance for Autry to resign or a change would be after UNC this Saturday. Even if it’s announced I think Autry still coaches out the rest after last weeks huge winning streak.
 
Hard to watch more embarrassments but this is how it goes when the ship is sinking.

New blood is coming.

-New Chancellor
-New AD
-New Hoops HeadCoach
-8 New Football Assistant Coaches; mainly a D Coordinator
-With the portal will have 100% new basketball team next year...

For the fanbase here that really cares and is invested in things, it can change quickly good or bad. All we can do is wait a few more weeks.
We must get it right on the new replacements. This is the opportunity to right the course of the program or be doomed to more irrelevance for the foreseeable future.
 
A good coach can win with these players and the new coach will want to interview them. Be foolish not to. They have to buy in and be willing to work hard. Some probably won't like getting pushed hard . If they don't want to then there is the door.
 
A good coach can win with these players and the new coach will want to interview them. Be foolish not to. They have to buy in and be willing to work hard. Some probably won't like getting pushed hard . If they don't want to then there is the door.


A great example of this IMHO was when we lost a close game to Virginia Tech, where we had the least for a significant portion of the game until they out-executed us over the last 10 minutes, beating us comfortably.

Their coach is no superstar. But I have zero doubt that if we played a second game and switched teams [I know that it wouldn't happen like the transitive property for only coaching one game, but let's just say he was our coach] that he would take our players and beat his team.

Because he gets his players to execute and they have a better offensive concept and get after it defensively.

There is more than enough talent here this year to be an NCAA team. What's lacking is the structure, systems on either side of the ball, a coherent game plan, adjustments, and players improving / the team getting better over the course of the season.

If anything, we're moving in the OPPOSITE direction. On both sides of the ball.
 
We need major NIL dollars to compete on a high level for top recruits. For starters, the powers that be will need to make amends with Adam Weitsman and from there try to tap into other billionaires or wealthy alumni (do we have a relationship with Al Waleed bin Talal Al Saud?).
 


The new coach won’t have much time to build a strong roster. Here’s a top 50 kid who might come with Hodgson. He’s not involved with any ACC schools.

Looking more into this, Hodgson is recruiting three four-star level prospects at the moment. Almost like he is gearing up for a move up in basketball and wants some talent to come with.
 
We need major NIL dollars to compete on a high level for top recruits. For starters, the powers that be will need to make amends with Adam Weitsman


LOL!!!!

Please allow me to retort, on behalf of SU


tracy morgan no GIF


We are NOT going to court a pretend billionaire who may or may not ever make any meaningful donations to Cuse -
and for the record, his next meaningful donation will be his FIRST ONE -

at the cost of alienating the Lallys, who have already
actually contributed TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS to Syracuse University and sports program.

AND OTHERS.



Far too many people buy the BS that AW is selling and carry water for him - Etan most recently and absurdly.
 
Looking more into this, Hodgson is recruiting three four-star level prospects at the moment. Almost like he is gearing up for a move up in basketball and wants some talent to come with.
Why do people think he is the savior to our NIL issues
 
We need major NIL dollars to compete on a high level for top recruits. For starters, the powers that be will need to make amends with Adam Weitsman and from there try to tap into other billionaires or wealthy alumni (do we have a relationship with Al Waleed bin Talal Al Saud?).

That's one strategy.

Not the only one.

And the problem with that strategy is that we're a small, private school with a realtively small alumi-base, compared to most P4 schools. So trying to play the "arms race" might not be sustainable long-term.

A better strategy might to be to bring in a coach with a proven track record, with effective systems on both sides of the ball, and then recruit system fits which we supplement via the portal. Not needing to spend "major NIL dollars to compete on a high level for top recruits." We haven't competed on a high level for top recruits since the early 90s, realistically.
 
We need major NIL dollars to compete on a high level for top recruits. For starters, the powers that be will need to make amends with Adam Weitsman and from there try to tap into other billionaires or wealthy alumni (do we have a relationship with Al Waleed bin Talal Al Saud?).
Is that you Etan?
 
Why do people think he is the savior to our NIL issues
Never said he was a savior for NIL. He is having success with much less than Syracuse has. He has also shown a knack for developing players from lesser schools (Philon and Nelson). As well as a player from D2 (Ennis).

Who has Autry really developed into a better player?
 
LOL!!!!

Please allow me to retort, on behalf of SU


tracy morgan no GIF


We are NOT going to court a pretend billionaire who may or may not ever make any meaningful donations to Cuse -
and for the record, his next meaningful donation will be his FIRST ONE -

at the cost of alienating the Lallys, who have already
actually contributed TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS to Syracuse University and sports program.

AND OTHERS.



Far too many people buy the BS that AW is selling and carry water for him - Etan most recently and absurdly.

I’m not going to disagree with the intent of your post and I understand your frustrations with Weitsman and share some of the same frustrations. I also understand why SU cut ties with him and agree with them. But I do disagree with a couple of points you make.

One is him being a pretend billionaire. Several sites that track this kind of thing have him as a billionaire. A couple of them say he is worth $1.5 billion. Probably the most trustworthy one is Forbes. He’s been off on their list at different times. Currently he’s not on their list but he has been. So if he’s not a billionaire currently, he’s probably pretty close. So I’m not sure what you mean by pretend billionaire.

The second is his donations, particularly NIL. The one and only year he was here to make NIL donations, he provided NIL I believe to eight athletes. Six in men’s basketball one in women’s basketball and one football player. So I don’t believe his next donation would be his first.
 
Never said he was a savior for NIL. He is having success with much less than Syracuse has. He has also shown a knack for developing players from lesser schools (Philon and Nelson). As well as a player from D2 (Ennis).

Who has Autry really developed into a better player?
I think Noah Lobdell is getting better.
 
Is that you Etan?
For real. Also Has anyone else noticed that whenever AW shows up in a social media post a handful of accounts all the sudden show back up.

The comments don’t worship him of anything. It’s all this implied narrative crap about how things used to be. Thinks like what we need to do is “get AW back” and things like “I don’t think AW wanted or knew of any of this”.

It’s like they just wanna keep the convo going as long as possible each time and somehow mix in that AW was a big part of Cuse’s success in the past and now he just wants to help get us back. It’s just that his hands are unfortunately completely tied until some secret society of Syracuse decisionmakers allows him to help again.

Im sorry but methinks if he cares he can just cut a check today. Im sure it’ll get cashed.
 

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