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[Cusefan78]

Well wouldn't you do the same if you committed to a school then have the school walk away from you.

 

[AAM62]

So their incompetence is in offering in the first place, not in their follow up.

Still incompetence.

It's not incompetence. It's a change of system. Save your "changing systems is incompetent " comeback, please.

 

[AAM62]

Our coaching staff is finding more ways to disappoint. The lack of communication is classless. Rip the bandaid off don't pull the hear no evil see no evil routine.

Most schools do this.

 

[AAM62]

Man you guys are really trolling. Relax

 

[Cusefan78]

Most schools do this.

Yeah that maybe true but its still not right. Why not give the kid a courtesy call and say sorry but we are changing what our needs our. This isn't a shafer thing if we had urban Meyer and he did this at Syracuse I would still be bothered by it.

 

[Scooch]

It's not incompetence. It's a change of system. Save your "changing systems is incompetent " comeback, please.

Yeah, changing our system and needing a whole new skill set from recruiting after giving the previous one 18 months to take just reeks of competence and vision.

 

[Scooch]

And I don't care if we're like everyone else in terms of reneging on commitments... but then can the staff stop with the "we're a character program" BS.

 

[Alsacs]

After having a GRob season this year Scott Shafer has lost a significant portion of the fanbase to Missouri and he is going to have to "Show Me" he is capable of being a division 1 HC for a P5 team. Last year we shaky potatoed our way to 7-6 this year we looked like a Greg Robinson team. We won 3 games and were lucky to win the first game.

 

[Full_Rebar]

to try to make the school look bad

I get that, but why wait 2-3 months? Wouldn't you get the word out as soon as you knew you had no offer to try and get another? Kids post their ACT/SAT scores the second they get them, yet this kid waits?

If he wasn't the type of player Syracuse wanted, why take is commitment in July? #bebold

 

[bothsocksup]

maybe we are recruiting better players

 

[kcsu]

My understanding is that he was contacted and his offer has been off the table for about two months. Second hand but pretty solid. Bottom line is that other than pulling the offer this has been handled well

 

[NineOneSeven]

Thinking about giving her my o face

 

[NineOneSeven]

maybe we are recruiting better players

Thanks for the laugh

 

[BlazeOrange]

What I don't get is this kid had only one other offer, so if the coaches told him they didn't want him months ago, why would he wait until now to decommit? Wouldn't he want the extra time to try and get a scholarship somewhere, or is he trying to get a sympathy offer?

I'm sure there are two sides, but I don't know why the kid would make this up.

Spitballing here, but maybe the kid thought he was more marketable as a Syracuse commit than a player with only one minor offer. Now, he might be getting interest from someone who says they won't/can't proceed further while he's verbally committed elsewhere. Or it could be the other school that's already offered is applying some pressure.

Another thing about the timing is that high school seasons are ending right now and he may not have focused on next year while playing this year. It would seem to make more sense to get the word out that he's available while schools could still scout his games, but some players avoid the in-season distraction. Or it could be as simple as he liked being referred to as a P5 commit in his team's media coverage - I'd imagine it's useful in getting regional award consideration.

 

[dinosaurbbq]

If our coaches have changed their minds on West and either have a better player to use the scholarship on or he has not developed the way they expected, I can totally understand pulling the schollie and have no problem with it. It isn't last minute at this point and if he's good enough to play P5, someone else will offer and he can go there. If we made a mistake and we are sure enough to pull the offer now, I'm glad we didn't simply follow through and waste the schollie to make the kid's dream of playing P5 FB come true at the cost of having a player who can contribute. If we had kept our offer out there, its comparable to me to asking a girl to marry you and she then demonstrates she's a total psychopath during the engagement and you nonetheless go through with it, because you asked her after all and you owe her a marriage now. You can re-evaluate and you should if it is absolutely clear to you this player won't and can't contribute here. Yes, you 'ed up with the offer to begin with and SU will have to own that because other coaches will use it against us, so again, you better be absolutely sure this kid won't and can't contribute here if you are going to pull the offer.

If, on the other hand, we pulled the offer because we will now have Lester as our OC next year instead of GMcD and this kid fit GMcD's system and doesn't fit Lester's system, there is only one circumstance in which I can accept that, if we needed to take on someone at a different position. For example, the TE new signee in place of an extra unneeded WR because Lester recognizes the usefulness of a TE pass catching threat that McD didn't recognize or believe. By that I mean that if a WR fit in McD's system, I would guess he has seen in that WR pass catching ability, sufficient speed and route running ability to be a P5 D1 player and such a player should be equally valuable to Lester or any other OC. There are positions where changing OC should change the attributes you look for in a recruit, certainly QB (pocket passer vs. dual threat), TE (pass catching vs. great blocking), and even RB (inside power runner vs. spread them out shifty, speedy back). WR is not one of those positions.